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Crush
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 Message 145 of 204
12 February 2014 at 9:07am | IP Logged 
Btw, the link to WoofCreature's log sends me to the forum homepage.
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 Message 146 of 204
12 February 2014 at 9:34am | IP Logged 
Here it is.
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 Message 147 of 204
15 February 2014 at 3:11pm | IP Logged 
Crush wrote:
[...] traducir el reto de cada mes en todos los idiomas [...]

[...] traducir el reto de cada mes a todos los idiomas [...] :)

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Crush wrote:
Una cosa a la que creo que nunca me voy a acostumbrar es el uso de "que" en lugar de "de que" en frases como "después que", "luego que".

Off the top of my head, I can't think of a situation in which I would say "luego de que", or even "luego que". Actually, I would dub it as translating to "after that/later", i.e. including a reference to other stuff in itself (but take this with a grain of salt).

OTOH "después", "después de", "después que" and "después de que" are all right in different contexts.

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Bueno y ya que estamos, también hay la costumbre de utilizar "escuchar" con el significado de "oír". Antes no tenía ese problema pero de tanto oírlo se me ha pegado y lo quiero emplear para todo: "No te escucho, ¿me puedes escuchar a mí?"


That reminds me of a discussion we had last year: Ver or mirar television or una pelicula. Towards the end I added a comment on more verb pairs that are very close yet different in meaning and are thus often mixed up --like those you mention--.

Edited by mrwarper on 15 February 2014 at 3:13pm

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 Message 148 of 204
15 February 2014 at 10:32pm | IP Logged 
Gracias :)

Veo a menudo "luego que" escrito en libros y foros de América Latina. La RAE dice:
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luego de
1. loc. prepos. Arg. y Méx. Con posterioridad en el tiempo. Luego de haber gastado 600 pesos.
...pero no creo que su uso se limite a Argentina y México. En varios hilos del subforo español de Wordreference, lo han explicado como un sinónimo de "después de".

Entonces, ¿cuál sería la diferencia entre "después que" y "después de que"? Yo siempre creía que significaban lo mismo. Según el DPD, parece que al principio se usó la forma "después que" pero que poco a poco "después de que" se fue incorporando al uso cotidiano:
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Del cruce de después que y después de surgió después de que, variante de la locución conjuntiva que algunos gramáticos censuraron en un principio por dequeísta, pero que hoy se considera válida.

Eso es interesante porque siempre había pensado que la forma correcta era "después de que" pero que con el tiempo se perdió el "de". Parece que lo tenía al revés ;)

Otra cosa que me confundía mucho era el uso de "llevar" y "traer". No sé por qué me causaba tantos problemas, pero era algo que siempre me tenían que corregir. No sé si ahora lo tengo claro o si se han cansado ya de corregirme :P
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 Message 149 of 204
16 February 2014 at 10:37pm | IP Logged 
Just wanted to add to the discussion the relatively well-known song (in South America) by
the duo Donato y Estefano,

Mi dios y mi cruz

Cuando me acuerdo de ti
La magia echa a volar y así
No te siento tan lejos
Cuando me acuerdo de ti
Y luego de caer vencido
Sólo sé que te quiero...
Cuando me acuerdo de ti

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 Message 150 of 204
16 February 2014 at 10:53pm | IP Logged 
Have we reached a verdict for a February challenge?
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 Message 151 of 204
17 February 2014 at 9:30am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Here it is.


Thanks! Fixed.

Crush wrote:
Have we reached a verdict for a February challenge?


No, not yet. I like your idea of writing a short story together. Is anyone else up for it?
Expugnator, do you have any ideas for a challenge? You're good at coming up with these. :)
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Crush
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 Message 152 of 204
17 February 2014 at 9:54am | IP Logged 
The short story idea might work better next month when we have longer to do it (ie. more than two weeks).

Another quick challenge idea stolen from one of those language games could be to take a short English article and translate it into your target language. Then you send your translation (via PM) to person #2, who translates it into another language they're studying, who sends it to #3, and so on. Then we can share what the final text ended up being and compare it to the original English article.


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