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tiinah
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 Message 25 of 45
09 December 2014 at 8:53am | IP Logged 
Hi! I work at Lingvist - some of you may have already spoken to me via Lingvist's feedback form - and thought I'd pitch in.

luke wrote:
The most common problem I've had, and I have it at the moment is the audio in Memorize stops working. What's odd is that it might work for one sentence and not any other. When that particular sentence comes back, which could be ten or twenty tests later, the sound works for that sentence.


This has been giving us trouble for at least a month. We thought we'd fixed it, but alas, it has re-emerged like a deadly scorpion from beneath its rock. We haven't been able to find a pattern for it either, but finding a solution or a workaround of some sort is definitely one of our top priorities at the moment.

luke wrote:
Another common issue I've seen, more so on my iPad is that the words I type stop showing up. The first letter may be there, and if I type the rest of the word, it will all pop on the screen when the field is full. [...] One other thing I noticed was that the keyboard doesn't work in feedback screen on my iPad.


Unfortunately, Lingvist is still quite flakey on mobile devices. We're hard at work developing a special mobile version, but it will take some time to get it done. I'll make a note of all comments we receive on issues with mobile devices and we'll take everything into account in our mobile site development, but if you have a laptop or a PC available, that is probably the best solution for now...

Crush wrote:
Also, in those 6,000 words, is that separate words ("head words") or are conjugations and such included?


Forms are counted as separate words at the beginning (up to ~2000 words or so); later on those are gradually combined so that just one lemma counts as a learnt word. Sorry, it's still a bit confusing. We're planning to emphasise the difference between forms and lemmas in the progress graphs, but this is going to take a while.

tristano wrote:
Why they do Estonian -> English and not English -> Estonian


Ah yes, we've received reproving comments on our unpatriotic behaviour :) Truth be told, Estonia is a small community, so this is very much dependent on the amount of interest we see for this (hint, hint).

Thank you for such an elaborate and interesting discussion! I'll keep an eye on this thread for your questions and suggestions (you've had some great ideas so far), but you can also drop me a line using Lingvist's feedback form or via e-mail at tiina [at] lingvist [dot] io.

Edited by tiinah on 09 December 2014 at 8:58am
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Crush
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 Message 26 of 45
09 December 2014 at 12:52pm | IP Logged 
tiinah wrote:
Forms are counted as separate words at the beginning (up to ~2000 words or so); later on those are gradually combined so that just one lemma counts as a learnt word. Sorry, it's still a bit confusing. We're planning to emphasise the difference between forms and lemmas in the progress graphs, but this is going to take a while.
That's an interesting idea, i imagine around 2,000 words you are less likely to get tripped up by conjugated forms (at least for French).

Regarding the lack of an English->Estonian course, it would be a nice indication of what you could expect from the course when learning a completely new language, especially as a lot of us have already studied some French before (or know related languages). Oddly enough i met an Estonian girl here in China when i was in Kunming. I'm not sure how difficult it is to maintain these courses (or find a nice Estonian TTS) and i can see where if the end goal is to market it to a wider audience how Estonian might not be a top priority, but there really don't seem to be a whole lot of materials out there at all to study it (at least not for English speakers, maybe there's more for Russian speakers).
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tiinah
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 Message 27 of 45
15 December 2014 at 8:45am | IP Logged 
Crush wrote:
Oddly enough i met an Estonian girl here in China when i was in Kunming.


Did you really? Did she teach you any Estonian phrases? Well, even Hemingway said that no port was complete without at least two Estonians (I'm paraphrasing here), so there should be one more around there somewhere.

I should be able to give you more info about the new languages and the general time frame in a week or two, after we've had our year-end team meeting.

Edited by tiinah on 15 December 2014 at 8:45am
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luke
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 Message 28 of 45
17 December 2014 at 12:32pm | IP Logged 
It came to me today that Lingvist is an implementation of the 5000 or 6000 sentence method, plus a lot more.
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Expugnator
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 Message 29 of 45
17 December 2014 at 10:03pm | IP Logged 
Where's the Estonian-English course you guys are talking about?
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Crush
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 Message 30 of 45
18 December 2014 at 6:28am | IP Logged 
The course that teaches English to Estonian speakers? You can select it in the "+Add more languages" page (hovering over the maps at the top). There isn't (currently) an Estonian course for English speakers.
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luke
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 Message 31 of 45
18 December 2014 at 9:38am | IP Logged 
luke wrote:
The audio for the dialogues comes from http://www.frenchbyfrench.com/.

The literature audio comes from Librivox.

I discovered that some of the reading dialogues are from http://www.podcastfrancaisfacile.com/. This podcast site also appears to have some nice videos that explain the dialogues and it's all in French, which is fantastic. They have workbook exercises, grammar and stuff too. My main goal is to find audio that directly supports the other material on The Lingvist.

There are a lot of radio interviews. I wonder where they come from.


The source of the numerous radio interviews is France Bienvenue - De vraies conversations pour apprendre le français comme on le parle et tout pour les comprendre !

France Bienvenue is all in French. Il y a "Des explications" et "des photos" to help the student understand the many colloquial expressions in the accompanying audio.

C'est vraiement bon.

The Memorize part of Lingvist has been the addictive part. It's helpful to find these other resources. They have additional material for the student who wants to dive into the material with other methods.
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luke
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 Message 32 of 45
20 December 2014 at 12:24pm | IP Logged 
This was a happy surprise this morning.

Lingvist wrote:
Well done, it looks like you've reached the end of the Memorize section. That's impressive. We'll be
adding more phrases very soon, but until then we urge you to check back daily to practice the words you already
know.

What's next? Why don't you improve your skills even further and head over to the Read and Listen sections.



The dashboard shows 4715 words in 63 hours 38 minutes, 92% of words of any text. Today is day 30.

I clicked on Read and there is a new easy reading there. It is a 7 page transcript of many of the easy audio dialogues
from French by French.   They are in the order of the ongoing story. The reading is nice for review.

I clicked back on Memorize and it has some review cards already in the queue.


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