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| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 57 of 62 04 October 2011 at 12:50am | IP Logged |
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It's been a long, long while since I have updated. I have not been studying language
since I last posted, but I have been teaching ESL. There are a lot of challenges involved in trying to direct learners (the "herding cats" metaphor) seems appropriate). At first I was sucking at it, but I think I have changed enough to feel more comfortable and confident of my teaching style. Throughout the last few years I have been exposed to Mandarin (and my trip earlier this year to China was much easier--I could get around without any trouble) even though I haven't been studying. In the last two weeks, I have started studying Japanese going back through Assimil lessons and listening to them while I jog. I find that after listening to them about five or six times my memory of the meaning comes back. I finally bought a ticket to goof around in Taiwan for a month in December. So ideally I would like to study up a lot so I have a lot of good opportunities to practice there and get to know some folks. We'll see. I've been thinking about using an Amazon gift card to buy Assimil Chinese Vol 1 & 2 rather than using the French version I have. I just need to do something rather than debate! L-R French sounds appealing right now, but I don't want to distract myself too much 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 58 of 62 04 October 2011 at 12:52am | IP Logged |
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Also, probably quite a few links on my first post of resources are broken. I will try to
spend some time next week fixing those, but I am traveling this week, so it's not a high priority. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 59 of 62 24 February 2012 at 12:45am | IP Logged |
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This is somewhat the typical "haven't posted for a while"
I've been listening to Chinese and Japanese on and off just changing my environment. Made some progress on Mandarin while I was in Taiwan for a month in Dec/Jan. I have a TW friend who speaks about six languages with a high degree of fluency. That's German, French, Mandarin, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean. He swears by the Hippo Family Club method which he picked up in Japan. I researched it a little online, but seems rather hype-ish. He lent me his English copy of their "Anyone Can Learn 7 Languages" and I read it, but it's still been difficult for me to figure out how this acquisition things works. Today he gave me a copy of the recordings (7 cds worth) because he was under the same impression as me when he first heard of it. I started listening to the CDs and I have to say I am actually impressed. Let me give a break down of how it works. Each CD is the same story (Approximately 50 min) presented 7 different ways. The first way is this: K= Korean G= German J= Japanese C= Mandarin S= Spanish E= English F= French 1K 0:23 2G 1:00 3J 1:58 4C 1:43 5S 1:17 6E 1:35 7K 0:42 8F 2:20 9S 2:48 10J 1:56 11E 1:22 12G 1:15 13C 1:05 14F 0:38 15K 1:56 16J 1:31 17G 1:21 18F 0:42 19S 0:31 20K 1:38 21E 1:03 22C 1:34 23F 1:31 24J 2:53 25G 1:09 26S 4:28 27C 1:41 28G 1:11 29K 0:43 30E 1:02 31F 1:06 32J 2:12 So the other 6 CDs have an equivalent structure, so you get every part of the story in each lesson, but they are all mixed up. I like this. The intent is just to have this going as your environment and attempting to mimic it over time. I will try this for a month and see how it goes. Hopefully this will act as a resource for the near lack of information about Hippo as well. I am impressed after finally seeing their materials, but wasn't until I actually heard the audio. Full speed, native speakers, not foreign language material. Edited by kealist on 24 February 2012 at 12:47am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| slattery Newbie United States dinglabs.com Joined 6477 days ago 13 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* | Message 60 of 62 25 February 2012 at 12:23am | IP Logged |
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So it tells a 50 minute story, rotating through the 7 languages, about a minute at a
time. In reality, the story is fully recorded in each language, it's just packaged up in a scrambled way. That's really interesting. Is this method just the 50 minute story, or does your friend apply this method even beyond the HGO / LEX resources? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 61 of 62 25 February 2012 at 1:19am | IP Logged |
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It seems they have the scrambled "transnational" as well as single language versions.
Although now with MP3s it's pretty easy to make your own transnational versions with only the languages you want. I think they have HGO in 19 languages, but the basic set is those 7. I think after trying this for a week, if I am feeling like continuing, I will order some stuff from the Massachusetts office here in the States. I can try to explain a few things that may be helpful. Each track is a scene from the story, so that is how it is broken up. There is background music / noise that gives you clues as to what is happening to know what part of the story it is. Their idea is that you should constantly play the CDs while you are doing other things as well as spending some time "singing" (What I would consider their term for shadowing) the languages. This is not a cognitive approach to language learning. It is based on language acquisition. So my friend, views it more as an environment that is necessary to acquire language. He thinks that LEX has made high quality materials and wants to support them. He uses these materials and in the same idea he rips audio from TV shows in whatever language he is acquiring and just has them playing all the time. He is a neurolinguist and thinks that if you are good with your mirror neurons (imitation/mimicry of sounds) you can acquire language like a native speaker. German and Korean are the languages I am not familiar with, so I guess those two will be the ones I get the purest results from this. I think this is not something a lot of people here would like, but I think I like it. It's slow though. I hope to be consistent and to be able to provide my experience in using it. I've listened to it for about 7 hours the past two days, so I am doing ok. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 62 of 62 25 February 2012 at 1:22am | IP Logged |
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I should also say that it can be super cheesy, but I don't mind that kind of thing. The
recordings were made in the 80s, I think. After all they love singing and dancing to songs! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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