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| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4525 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes  Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 17 of 54 10 March 2014 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
I very much doubt that. I've come across too many "Austrians" (ie. born in Austria) with Turkish parents who albeit being reasonable proficient in German refuse to break out of their Turkish bubble (not necessarily talking about the language) except for bullying around and swearing at Austrians, which seems to be the only kind of interaction they want to have with us. But you are probably only talking about new immigrants, who don't speak the language yet. Your statement might be true for them, at least they act (more) respectfully. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7209 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 18 of 54 10 March 2014 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Someone do this kid a favor and turn him across your knee. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 19 of 54 10 March 2014 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Maybe that will happen, but in the meantime I'll just say that I'm becoming slightly tired of all this negativity.
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| FashionPolyglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3947 days ago 39 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 21 of 54 10 March 2014 at 10:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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Guys… please don't gang up on me. I'm trying to learn. I'm restricting myself of having to make posts, but if the
hate-fest continues, I'll have to intervene. Now is there anyone else willing to share stories of their parents' English? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4626 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 22 of 54 10 March 2014 at 10:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's easy to say that when in Rome, one should do as the Romans do. But nobody becomes fluent in a
language overnight. A Canadian family relocating to Budapest don't switch permanently to Hungarian the moment the plane touches down. Immigrants need to find work and often they have to take whatever is going. Language learning is done on the job. In every country you will find immigrants whose ability in the host language ranges to zero to completely fluency. Some people just don't care, others prioritise language acquisition. How can you ever change that? Interestingly, many Polish people have moved to the UK over the past 10 years. Typically, they would arrive with poor English skills but the sink-or-swim environment made sure that many learned pretty quickly. Now there are actual Polish communities in Britain where newcomers can live and work in the Polish language and have their immediate needs met without needing much English at all. Therefore the propensity of people to adapt to a new language also depends on the availability of services in their mother tongue in the new location. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4011 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese | Message 23 of 54 10 March 2014 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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My parents are native monolingual English speakers and I still occasionally have to
correct my dad's English as sometimes he says things that aren't grammatically correct. It's not just foreign people who have trouble speaking English, sometimes us natives are off the ball (I'm guilty of saying 'conversating' instead of 'conversing' numerous times, lol) I don't see why it makes a difference if they don't speak English that well. They obviously have no trouble handlin business in English (you've never said you have to translate for them). Most Americans don't care if foreigners speak like the Queen of England or like they just learned English five minutes ago, if they can understand and be understood then that's good enough for us. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6065 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 24 of 54 11 March 2014 at 3:09am | IP Logged | ||
I'm afraid you are not getting the message. I'll try to help you: 1. There's no hate-fest. 2. I'd never even seen that expression: how negative can you get? 3. "I'll have to intervene"? Really? Is that your register? 4. Throwing a tantrum does not help. 5. Something like "I'm reading lesson 1 of ABC course and I have a question: how do you say XYZ in Portuguese? Can you please help me?" would help. Care to try? 6. A lesson for life: coming to a public forum and saying something along the lines of "my parents have no excuse" is completely unacceptable anywhere in the world (regardless of your reasons); in some cultures, you could get in very serious trouble for that. Edited by Luso on 11 March 2014 at 3:25am 8 persons have voted this message useful |
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