Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4148 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 33 of 54 11 March 2014 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
FashionPolyglot wrote:
Gemuse wrote:
Lets be concrete. How bad are we talking about?
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My parents English is B2 level. Seems good at a Linguistic sense, but in a real life conversational setting, it
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B2 is a perfectly adequate level. My in-laws are probably at a B1/B2 level, and I have absolutely no problem
talking to them about anything. They are perfectly capable of doing anything that they need to do in English -
but of course, they still speak Tagalog at home and with their children. And why not? They don't socialize a lot
outside of their family.
Do your parents work in English or in Tagalog? That makes a huge difference - if they aren't working in English,
and they don't have a lot of English-speaking friends, then it makes it hard to improve.
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Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6065 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical)
| Message 34 of 54 11 March 2014 at 8:56pm | IP Logged |
FashionPolyglot wrote:
Luso wrote:
2. I'd never even seen that expression: how negative can you get? |
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2. You're wrong about my personality. I'm super nice to others around me. You shouldn't judge a person you don't know.
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You're right. I don't know you. Anyway, I was just judging the attitude, not the person. I'm sure you are nice. Good luck on your language learning.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4086 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 35 of 54 11 March 2014 at 9:48pm | IP Logged |
Stelle wrote:
Do your parents work in English or in Tagalog? That makes a huge difference - if they
aren't working in English,
and they don't have a lot of English-speaking friends, then it makes it hard to improve.
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And also if they are not into English literature/TV
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FashionPolyglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3947 days ago 39 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 36 of 54 11 March 2014 at 10:29pm | IP Logged |
@Stelle
My parents work in a English speaking environment.
@Luso
Thanks
@Gemuse
My parents watch American television and read books in English.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4086 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 37 of 54 12 March 2014 at 7:38am | IP Logged |
FashionPolyglot wrote:
@Stelle
My parents work in a English speaking environment.
@Gemuse
My parents watch American television and read books in English. |
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Well then you should be asking what they should be doing to improve their English.
Cuz, speaking, working, watching TV, reading is usually what is recommended to get to
C1/C2. Are you sure they are only B2, and not C1?
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4626 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 38 of 54 12 March 2014 at 12:07pm | IP Logged |
There are plenty of native English speakers who move to other countries and don't exactly thrive in the new language. Some do, of course. Everyone has their own priorities.
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FashionPolyglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3947 days ago 39 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 39 of 54 12 March 2014 at 3:29pm | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
Are you sure they are only B2, and not C1? |
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I'm sure my parents are B2. If I didn't have to correct them occasionally, than I would have thought C1 otherwise.
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Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4373 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans
| Message 40 of 54 12 March 2014 at 3:41pm | IP Logged |
C1 is definitely not at a native speaker level to the point where you don't have to correct mistakes. Plenty of members on this forum have said that they recognized they still had holes in their vocabulary and knowledge after hitting C1, and others have said they didn't feel they really were as advanced as the official description says.
But B2 or C1, it sounds as though your parents are pretty functional in the language; they're able to take care of their personal and professional needs through English. Not everybody needs or even necessarily wants to put in the time and effort to go from "extremely competent non-native" to "native-like fluency." I think maybe their English isn't quite so weak.
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