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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7209 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 49 of 54 12 March 2014 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
I would have thought C1 if I didn't have to correct them occasionally. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| FashionPolyglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3947 days ago 39 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 50 of 54 12 March 2014 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@Gemuse
Thanks for the correction. I'm surprised (Not really), that you saw grammar mistakes (You are a language nerd after all). The Social Media Era we currently are in, gave several people the habit to initialize & abbreviate words. To imagine that just a couple years ago, people would text, "Do it yourself". Now, you have people texting DIY for short. It seems the impact of social media, has made a new trend, in terms of digital communication. Some people carried their habits on face-to-face conversations, and it just doesn't sound right. I hear the average C2 native English speaker even saying "LOL", in a real, face-to-face conversation. You're not suppose to say initialized and abbreviated words at a conversation. You're suppose to say the whole word. That habit should stay only while you're texting, or on the internet. ^ I don't know how this has anything to do with my grammar, but I guess it impacted it a bit. English is one of the hardest languages, in terms of grammar. Wouldn't be surprised if even language nerds, made grammatical errors in english. Sorry to throw fashion terms at you (DIY & trend). I felt the need to show my enthusiasm. :D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4257 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 51 of 54 12 March 2014 at 9:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
A common misconception, this is (almost) entirely subjective. Try the grammar of Skolt Saami or Tundra Nenets for reference and tell me that English grammar is harder than that of those. In your perspective, of course. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 52 of 54 12 March 2014 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Or even Portuguese :)
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| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4148 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 53 of 54 13 March 2014 at 1:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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Or Tagalog! ;)
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| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4148 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 54 of 54 13 March 2014 at 1:37am | IP Logged | |||||
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To answer your original question, though…
My parents aren't immigrants. But my Dad grew up in French and my Mom grew up in English. My Dad's English is perfect. He's truly bilingual. If you heard him speaking English, you'd assume it was his first language. If you heard him speaking French, you'd assume the same. My Mom understands French but doesn't speak it at all. I think it's a shyness/confidence issue. I don't know. She grew up an anglophone in Montreal - there's definitely some personal linguistic and political history there. (Funny aside: my francophone Dad is from Ontario and my anglophone Mom is from Quebec. Most people would assume the opposite. I grew up bilingual in a bilingual community in Ontario.) My husband - and his entire family - are immigrants from the Philippines. He speaks at a C2+ level, even though he moved here in his mid-20s. Same thing with his siblings. As I mentioned in an earlier post, his mom is probably somewhere around B2. His Dad might actually be at C1 - and yes, he does make mistakes and he does have an accent. Doesn't really matter, though. They read books, watch movies and converse easily in English. They're retired, though, so they don't have to work in English. Edited by Stelle on 13 March 2014 at 1:38am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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