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Giovanni
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 Message 1 of 63
21 June 2011 at 6:24pm | IP Logged 
I am an undergraduate language student, with the aim to be a Translator and interpreter when I finish my studies. But I see more and more people using online softwares, GoogleTranslators above all, to translate sentences, documents, websites etc. even fellow language students using them to do university work.
Are free Translations Softwares online killing future Translators? Question have your say.....


In a university in Barcelona there is a convention to discuss those issues today and tomorrow, go if you are there. more info here:

http://www.language-culture-translation.blogspot.com/
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Cabaire
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 Message 2 of 63
21 June 2011 at 6:59pm | IP Logged 
"Those damned motorcars are killing my future" cried the farrier.
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Lianne
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 Message 3 of 63
21 June 2011 at 7:07pm | IP Logged 
Even in Star Trek Enterprise, when the universal translator (way beyond Google Translator) already existed, Hoshi Sato, linguist extraordinaire, was still essential. So you should be good for a few centuries, anyway.
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xees
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 Message 4 of 63
21 June 2011 at 7:11pm | IP Logged 
They will never translate idioms and slang accurately and that is such a large part of language. I wouldn't worry too much

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Sunja
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 Message 5 of 63
21 June 2011 at 7:15pm | IP Logged 
Have you actually tried using one of those translators? There's a huge chance that what you want will come out as gibberish -- or at the most inaccurate.

An English student of mine uses this at work and says it's very unreliable for writing his e-mails. Most words used at the company for emails (require, according to, concerning, included, accept) usually so twisted in some business jargon that they don't make any sense when you run them through the translator. I won't be overly critical of those things. I use them for language study. It's still a great help to business people who don't speak a second language, but it has to be taken with a grain of salt and there has to be a reliable checker (aka person) so that misunderstandings don't occur.

That's still a far cry from translation. Being a translator is not just competing with Google, you have to be very advanced. (A lot of translators go into some technical or juristic field -- that's where translators are needed the most.) It's a tough and underpaid profession unless you're really specialized. As many forum members will attest..


Edited by Sunja on 21 June 2011 at 7:19pm

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hrhenry
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 Message 6 of 63
21 June 2011 at 7:30pm | IP Logged 
Giovanni wrote:
Are free Translations Softwares online killing future Translators?

No.

Online translators will not replace interpreters, nor will they replace any sort of legal documentation, among many other types of binding documents.

As others have asked, have you actually used any of these online translators for anything professional? They don't cut it. They won't cut it for a long time. And frankly, if I were a university professor, I'd be able to spot such translated documents in short order and grade accordingly.

R.
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Edited by hrhenry on 21 June 2011 at 7:33pm

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Ari
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 Message 7 of 63
21 June 2011 at 8:00pm | IP Logged 
Automated translation is pretty crappy at the moment. I suspect it will become pretty good in the near future—
certainly before your carreer is over if you're just starting it now. However, while I'm pretty sure machines will be
able to generate correct and understandable language pretty soon, translation of works of art such as novels and
poetry will require more than just that. And as such, the need for translators will probably be diminished, but I
don't believe it will disappear completely anytime soon.
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Sunja
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 Message 8 of 63
21 June 2011 at 8:30pm | IP Logged 
Ari wrote:
translation of works of art such as novels and poetry will require more than just that


Let's not forget translation of "business English".

I've seen what runs through the email databases those big companies. whoo, we need people to help decipher through that mess, too!


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