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a3
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Message 169 of 553

03 January 2013 at 4:05pm | IP Logged

Julie wrote:

What about merging both Scandinavian teams? What's your opinion on that? We need to make this decision as soon as possible.

I don't mind if we merge.

Quote:

if there are any of the words you do not understand, please ask.

I'd be better off asking what the whole text means (which I don't).
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Message 170 of 553

03 January 2013 at 5:33pm | IP Logged

Julie wrote:

What about merging both Scandinavian teams? What's your opinion on that?
We need to make this decision as soon as possible.

First of all, it would be nice to know, if those who are still thinking about whether to
become a Viking or not (Jonhello + limey75, both w/Norwegian) have made a decision. Team
#1 has 15 members, Team #2 6 members so far. If Jonhello and limey75 join Team #2, they
will have 8 members there, IMHO enough to "survive".

If there are no other people joining Team #2 by the end of the week, I would suggest to
merge both teams.
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daegga
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Message 171 of 553

03 January 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged

Julie wrote:

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Vikings, what is your experience with juggling multiple Scandinavian languages?

Multiple Scandinavian languages seem to help each other more than they interfere. Interference doesn't matter much for your passive skills (except false friends, but there aren't that many) and I am able to separate them more or less by accent for active skills. When I write Danish, I hear a Danish accent in my head (and for speaking it's obvious), which helps me to separate expressions and spelling from Norwegian, which I write without hearing the words in my head (probably a product of different learning strategies). And then there are spell checkers :)
Swedish is a bit more different, so you should get even less interference.
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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 172 of 553

04 January 2013 at 10:18am | IP Logged

Expugnator wrote:

Hallo alle sammen! Nå skal jeg skrive litt norsk i 10 minutter.

Jeg har begynte å lære norsk i august. Det er faktisk den andre gang jeg prøver å lære norsk. På den førte gang har jeg lært noe ord og setninger, men jeg kunne ikke lære hver dag. Nå leser jeg en nye leksjon fra Hugos bok. Det finnes 12 leksjoner og i morgen skal jeg låere den åttende leksjon.

Jeg vil lære norsk for å kunne lese romaner, sagaer og andre bøker. Jeg vil også skrive et norskkurs til brasilianer, fordi det finnes ingen godt kurs for å lære norsk frs portugisisk.
Det var alt. Jeg kan ikke enda flere ord i norsk.

Since you asked for corrections, here you go. It is actually very well written, so the corrections look worse than they are. I have also written some notes, I probably won't have much time to do that normally, but I have a quiet morning today .-)

1. Jeg BEGYNTE å lære norsk i august.
2. Det er faktisk [   ] andre gang jeg prøver å lære norsk.
3. DEN FØRSTE GANGEN LÆRTE JEG noen ord og setninger, men jeg kunne ikke STUDERE/ØVE hver dag.
4. Nå leser jeg en NY leksjon i Hugos bok.
5. Det finnes 12 leksjoner og i morgen skal jeg LÆRE den åttende leksjon.
6. Jeg vil lære norsk for å kunne lese romaner, sagaer og andre bøker.
7. Jeg vil også skrive et norskkurs FOR brasilianerE, FOR det finnes ingen godE kurs for å lære norsk FOR portugisiskTALENDE.

Notes:
1: You must use the simple past tense because you have specified the time, and you are outside that timeframe (august).
- Jeg har begynt å lære norsk (unspecified)
- Jeg har begynt å lære norsk i dag (specified, but within the same timeframe)
- Jeg begynte å lære norsk i august (specified and outside the timeframe)
2. You can say ANDRE GANG or DEN ANDRE GANGEN, but you cannot combine the two.
3. Set expression
4. EN NY (or when you use the definite - which is not possible in this sentence) DEN NYE
5. Typo :-)
6. Perfect!
7. - You write something FOR someone, and Brazilians must be in plural.
   - You can either write "FOR DET FINNES INGEN GODE KURS" (best)or "FORDI DET IKKE FINNES NOEN GODE KURS"
    - Either "FOR PORTUGISISKTALENDE", or "MED PORTUGISISK SOM UTGANGSPUNKT/GRUNNSPRÅK"

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 04 January 2013 at 10:19am
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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 173 of 553

04 January 2013 at 10:28am | IP Logged

a3 wrote:

Hei folk. Jeg vil deltar en lett måte å skrive de spesielle bokstaver å, æ, ø og også mange andre slik ä ö ë â á ì ũ - man bruker bare programet free compose - http://code.google.com/p/freecompose/ - det er veldig lett og starter selv med windows.
Å skrive en bokstav man må trykke klaffen mellom 'Alt Gr' og Ctrl og da to andre, for eksempel:
a og * gir å
a og e gir æ
o og / gir ø
o og ~ gir õ

Hvilket onlinet ordbok bruker dere? Jeg bruker eltranslador.com og tritrans.net men jeg er ikke sikker hvis de er de beste ordboka som det er på netten.

Hei folkENS. Jeg vil delE MED DERE en lett måte å skrive de spesielle bokstavENE å, æ, ø og også mange andre slik SOM ä ö ë â á ì ũ - man bruker bare programMet free compose - http://code.google.com/p/freecompose/ - det er veldig lett og starter AV selv I windows.
FOR å skrive en bokstav MÅ man trykke TASTEN mellom 'Alt Gr' og Ctrl og SÅ to andre, for eksempel:

HvilkeN NETTordbok bruker dere? Jeg bruker eltranslador.com og tritrans.net men jeg er ikke sikker PÅ OM deT er deN beste ordboka som [ ] er på netteT.[/QUOTE]

Here you are. Ask if there are any of the corrections which were unclear - I will try to explain if I can.

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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 174 of 553

04 January 2013 at 10:32am | IP Logged

a3 wrote:

Den er også en gode måte, særlig når skriver man fra en andre datamaskin. Men med den måten trenger man å trykke fem klaffer i stede tre.
Bruker jeg det riktig ordet for klaffen?

Den er også en GOD måte, særlig når MAN skriver fra en ANNEN datamaskin. Men med den måten MÅ man [ ] trykke fem TASTER i stedeT FOR tre.
Bruker jeg det riktig ordet for TAST?

IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS CORRECTIONS LET ME KNOW, AND I'LL DO YOUR TEXTS AS WELL.

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 04 January 2013 at 10:34am
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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 175 of 553

04 January 2013 at 10:37am | IP Logged

Solfrid Cristin wrote:

A SMALL NORWEGIAN LESSON - USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS

I still feel a bit hesitant about correcting people's mistakes here, as I do not know how you feel about being corrected in public. I would however mention things that seem to be rather common. One mistake which seems to be common even among native Norwegian speakers, is the use of captal letters.

And the main rule is: If in doubt, do not use capital letters. They are only used when beginning a new sentence, and for proper names for persons or places. No months, week days, languages, nationalities, no nothing. If you see native speakers writing any of those with capital letters, it is because of influence from English, and it is wrong. We even use small letters for words containing a country if it is merged with a different word.

Eks. På mandag sa Judy til meg at hun hadde lyst til å dra til Norge i januar for å lære seg norsk sammen med en franskmann som er en norgesvenn.

On Monday Judy told me that she wanted to go to Norway in January to learn Norwegian together with a Frenchman who is a "Norway-friend". x

x - Cultural note. Norway is a small country with a huge inferiority complex (a number of foreigners asking if Norway is the capital of Sweden and who think Liv Ullmann is Swedish does that to you). We therefore get extatic whenever anyone shows interest in us, by visiting the country often or by talking nicely about us, and we immediately proclaim that they are a "norgesvenn". Particularly if it is someone famous:-)

There, first lesson down. Many more to come :-)

SECOND VIKING CHALLENGE

Write 3 sentences where you try to use as many of the words which in English are spelled with capital letters, and in Norwegian (and as far as I know also Swedish and Danish) are spelled with regular letters as possible.

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 04 January 2013 at 10:42am
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pesahson
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Message 176 of 553

04 January 2013 at 3:06pm | IP Logged

Hi,

I'm not on the team but I'm starting to work with Assimil Norwegian and I thought this thread would be a good place to ask my question. I'm looking for an online Norwegian-English dictionary with pronunciation. I did some google search but to no avail. Has anyone found such a thing? I would appreciate any suggestions.

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