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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 465 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:07am | IP Logged | |||||
I was going to answer you back that it is not really an essential word - it is not a word that has ever or would ever cross my lips, I think of it as slang, and mostly used by men, particularly younger men. However I made a quick survey around the office, and got an instant image of why it is so difficult to ask a Norwegian about language, because they will all have different perceptions. I got the following answers: 1) Woman, 40 years: Used by men about men only, would never use it herself. 2) Man 50 years: Would use it freely about male friends. 3) Woman 45: Slang, would not use it about her own friends, but could use it about the friends of her children 4)Man 40: More a question of geography than of gender/age. Qute common in Østfold which is close to the Swedish border, as it is of Swedish origin (He was from Østfold himself). Little used in the rest of the country. 5) Woman 30: Slang. Only used jokingly about male friends. She comes from Østfold, hears it very seldom. 6) Man 30 from Northern Norway: Uses it all the time about his male friends. Proceeded to ask if I knew a word which sounds similar. but where you exchange one of the letters with an r. Refused to tell me what that word meant, just laughed, and said it was not something he would be comfortable teaching me. So: To sum up, since you are a young man, it is perfectly normal to use it, but it is slang and not common among women. Never ever used about women. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 466 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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Kompis isn't used that much in Norway? I hear it all the time, but it's Swedish of
course. What do you use? Ven? Edited by tarvos on 12 June 2013 at 10:20am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kez Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4358 days ago 181 posts - 212 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Swedish | Message 467 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:25am | IP Logged | |||||
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Ít's been a while! How is everyone doing in here? Still giving it the full 100%?
(And indeed, I have also noticed that kompis is used quite alot in Swedish. More than vän is) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 468 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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Tarvos: You would hear it a lot, because you are a young man, and would probably have guys your own age as friends. It is a lot less used in Norway than in Sweden, but a lot more used among young men than among adult women.
I would use "venn" or "kamerat" if they were real friends - "kamerat" being less formal. If they were just somebody I knew, I would use "bekjent" or " en tjommi jeg kjenner" if I wanted to use slang. That particular slang being so much part of the slang of my youth, that a 20-year old Norwegian of either gender probably would not even understand it :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 469 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Kamrad sounds old-fashioned (forgive me the Swedish spelling of the words). But that
explains a lot, thanks! You also don't use flicka and pojke right, but jente and... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 470 of 553 12 June 2013 at 10:48am | IP Logged | |||||
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Kamerat is very common in all age groups - but it is informal, particularly if you pronounce it like "kammerat". If I were giving a speech in a formal setting, I would not use that word. For boy and girl we use "gutt" and "jente". If you really want to be old fashioned you kan also use "pike" for girl. The weird thing about those terms, is that they seem to be age indifferent. Most of us would use those terms about someone our own age, regardless of the actual age. So if I refer to "ei jente jeg kjenner" (a girl I know) she may be 5 or she may be 55. The term girl does not give an indication of age, only of gender. I would be less inclined to use "gutt" about a guy passed his 50, and would rather use "fyr" of "type". I used to think this was really strange, until an American professor told me that when addressing an all female audience, he would always say "you guys", never "you girls". "You girls" would be considered sexist. After that I realized that all languages and cultures have their really weird linguistic things. It is part of the charm :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4522 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 471 of 553 12 June 2013 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
hmm... korpiss :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 472 of 553 12 June 2013 at 1:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
Nope. Not that :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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