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| vanityx3 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6461 days ago 331 posts - 326 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 425 of 489 30 January 2008 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
Good idea. I'm liking the L-R method. A reason why I particularly don't get distracted by my native language is that I get really wrapped up into the story. I think it really is starting to help for me, but I still have a lot of work too. Also, I do agree with some of what Steve says though, about finding joy in reading a book in it's original. Some books I wouldn't want to do L-R with only because I want to read them in the original French without ever having read them in another language first. L'étranger and Madame Bovary are a few books I'd only want to read in French. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6206 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 426 of 489 30 January 2008 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To leserables:
XYZ-language-Polish texts are meant for Polish learners of XYZ-language. Some of them are recorded in Polish, too. You can find them using p2p. To Serpent: You might be a not fast enough reader. For L-R to be effective you must be able to read pretty quickly, it should be natural like breathing. Edited by atamagaii on 30 January 2008 at 2:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6226 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic | Message 427 of 489 30 January 2008 at 2:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
Try here: http://www.google.com/search?q=audiobooki http://www.google.com/search?q=ksi%C4%85%C5%BCki+audio Apparently links lead mostly to paid audiobooks, but the prices seem not too high. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| michau Tetraglot Groupie Norway lang-8.com/member/49 Joined 6226 days ago 86 posts - 135 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, NorwegianC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish, Sign Language Studies: Burmese, Toki Pona, Greenlandic | Message 428 of 489 30 January 2008 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
Maybe Atamagaii is right. For sure speed of audio shouldn't be faster than speed of your reading. You can try slowing down audio a bit, using Audacity or something similar. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6675 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 429 of 489 30 January 2008 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I agree with Zuanghi. I have worked listening and reading in L2. I think doing this for 3 or 7 days, 10 hours every day, is better. I am a believer in:
1-Reading (L2), listening (L2) 2-Listening (L2) But I can not use earphones (ipods) more than 30 min (headache, ear pain). Maybe for beginners is better listening (L1), listening (L2). On the other hand, I tried this for 2 hours every day without problems. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6206 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 430 of 489 30 January 2008 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
You might try to only listen to them as well. L'étranger is wonderfully read by Camus himself. Madame Bovary is much more complictated. By the way, I've made parallel French-Polish texts of both books, if somebody's interested. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6550 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 431 of 489 31 January 2008 at 2:06am | IP Logged | |||||
I agree with slucido and Zuanghi. Reading L1 while listening to L2 is painful. And I didn't see any improvement in vocabulary; not even 1 word. I think I know why this is now. Reading L1 while listening to L2, over and over, would work something like a flashcard review for most. But I'm not like most. I'm highly defficient in learning words just from conversation. I need to take things out of context and drill them for a few days. Then I'm just fine. So maybe, while reading L1 and listening to L2, because there isn't a word for word translation like I use for flashcards, it's an ineffective method for me. So I think a person will benefit greatly from this method, if she doesn't get too bored with it, and if she is not one of those rare individuals who has to take all vocab out of context in order to learn it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6206 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 432 of 489 31 January 2008 at 2:54am | IP Logged | |||||
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To leosmith
On learning styles. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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