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kanewai
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 Message 1 of 18
21 June 2013 at 4:49am | IP Logged 
I thought the Assimil Experiment turned out very well - there were a lot of interesting
insights into what worked and what didn't with Assimil.

Anybody game for trying it again with the new Teach Yourself or Living Language
courses? Both of them have issued significant updates in the past year or two, and it
might be time to re-visit them as a group. It would also help the HTLALers who are
putting together the wiki pages by providing fresh data.

If people were interested, I'd recommend that we run it looser than the Assimil
experiment. That is, less rules about being a beginner, or following the method, or not
using other resources. Assimil makes a lot of claims we wanted to test; for these it
would be nice just to have more reviews.

These courses also cost a lot less than Assimil (about $35), so it'll be easier for
more to join in.

If we timed it right we could start it at the same time as, and overlap with, the 6WC
in August.

Anyone interested?




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liddytime
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 Message 2 of 18
21 June 2013 at 3:28pm | IP Logged 
Which Living Language courses were you referring to; the "Ultimate" series or the "Basic" courses? The project
sounds interesting!
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Expugnator
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 Message 3 of 18
21 June 2013 at 6:08pm | IP Logged 
I'd be glad to join, but I think my languages aren't covered in Living Languages (no Estonian, for example, and I don't own the German one). Besides, I'd rather go through Living Language after having been through Assimil. It's rather extensive and the dialogues/lessons are long. This amount of exposure for each lesson is something I can only handle after I'm close to A2.

Still, I'd be following the experiment attentively!
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Gala
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21 June 2013 at 8:22pm | IP Logged 
liddytime wrote:
Which Living Language courses were you referring to; the "Ultimate"
series or the "Basic" courses? The project
sounds interesting!


I'm pretty sure that he's referring to neither, but rather the new Complete Beginner-
Advanced, which is discussed in a thread a few lines below this one. Despite its name, it
apparently has much less content and is more basic than the Ultimate Beginner-
Intermediate.
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stelingo
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 Message 5 of 18
21 June 2013 at 8:59pm | IP Logged 
From what I have seen, the changes in the TY books are purely cosmetic. Certainly in the case of TY Arabic the content is identical to the previous edition.
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kanewai
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 Message 6 of 18
21 June 2013 at 9:11pm | IP Logged 
Gala wrote:
liddytime wrote:
Which Living Language courses were you referring to;
the "Ultimate" series or the "Basic" courses? The project
sounds interesting!


I'm pretty sure that he's referring to neither, but rather the new Complete Beginner-
Advanced, which is discussed in a thread a few lines below this one. Despite its name,
it
apparently has much less content and is more basic than the Ultimate Beginner-
Intermediate.


Yes. There's some talk about it, but not enough reviews to make a call on how good /
bad it is.

stelingo wrote:
From what I have seen, the changes in the TY books are purely
cosmetic. Certainly in the case of TY Arabic the content is identical to the previous
edition.
You're right ... I just compared some of my old copies to the new ones
online.
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Cavesa
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 Message 7 of 18
21 June 2013 at 10:07pm | IP Logged 
Expugnator, the whole point of the experiment would be to try the new LL courses and I'm afraid their content is anything but long and comprehensive. They seem to be A1/A2 courses.
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Cavesa
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 Message 8 of 18
21 June 2013 at 10:12pm | IP Logged 
One of our newbies is using the new LL and seems to like it as a beginner course.

here is the log: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=36253&PN=1


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