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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4640 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 33 of 51 14 November 2012 at 10:18am | IP Logged | |||||
Indeed, and Spanish people have the same problem as Russians with the [h] sound. I know many Spaniards who, when speaking English, will either drop the [h] altogether, so "air" and "hair" sounds the same, or they pronounce it close to the Spanish "jota". 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 34 of 51 14 November 2012 at 1:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
Я польского языка не знаю, но, насколько я понимаю, большинство пар по твердости- мягкости в русском понимании там исчезло. То есть не с-сь, а с-щ, что уже, в общем-то, французу должно быть понятно. н-нь во французском уже есть. Губные согласные, если верить Википедии, фактически произносятся как сочетания согласных с иотом (кроме как перед и), а на конце слов не встречаются. Даже если Википедии не верить, мы знаем, что всякие русские "бя", где йота никакого нет, воспринимаются иностранцами как бья и с "ба" не путаются. То есть трудно воспринимать разницу между ś и sz, а не между s ś. In short: it's hard to perceive the difference between ś and sz, not s and ś. Edited by Марк on 14 November 2012 at 4:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 35 of 51 14 November 2012 at 2:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
You are allowed to trill the r like that in Dutch. It is not perfectly standard, but it is the only form that is considered correct in Belgium (unless you speak Brussels or Ghent dialect) and plenty of dialects in Dutch have it (Amsterdam, low Saxon dialects, etc). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 36 of 51 14 November 2012 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I won't go quite as far as to say I can't pronounce it, but I have a difficult time with
the "z" sound in Mandarin. I'm getting a lot better with practice apparently but it's one of the few sounds I've had to work on actively that was just plain wrong at the beginning. When I first got here nearly a month ago it was wrong nine times out of ten, and when I managed it by fluke I was never able to produce it a second time. Once I began to learn words with said sound in them it got better a bit faster, but I'd say it still gives me trouble. Edited by LanguageSponge on 14 November 2012 at 3:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 38 of 51 15 November 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't want to nitpick, but the ш and the р in маршрут belong to two different sillables, so you have to pronounce them seperately anyway. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 39 of 51 16 November 2012 at 2:45am | IP Logged | |||||
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Are you able to pronounce mushroom?:)
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 40 of 51 16 November 2012 at 8:51am | IP Logged | |||||
Do you pronounce all the syllables separately? Anyway there are words like шрам. Edited by Марк on 16 November 2012 at 8:57am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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