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| EmmiInEurope Tetraglot Newbie South Africa nederlandsvirafrikaa Joined 5116 days ago 13 posts - 26 votes Speaks: Afrikaans*, English, French, Dutch Studies: Spanish | Message 169 of 509 07 December 2010 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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FAQ-NL: Could anyone tell me which grammar rules are associated with the gender of the
noun in Dutch? So far, I know of 1) the "relatieve bijzin" (i.e. het boek dat ik lees vs. de kat die ik zie) 2) adding -e to adjectives: "een mooi meisje" vs "een mooie jongen" Any other rules I should know of? Thanks! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5336 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 170 of 509 07 December 2010 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think that that's it. Nothing else comes to my mind but I'll think about it.
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| JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5768 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish | Message 171 of 509 07 December 2010 at 5:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
Well, what do you mean by gender here? Grammatical gender, don't you? In fact you are referring to "het" and "de" words in 1 and 2. You can call that gender, but... There is the issue of possessive pronouns (mijn, zijn, ...) and the personal pronouns, subject and object form (zij vs. haar/ hen/ ze, hij vs. hem, etc. ). There is quite a difference between Dutch Dutch and Belgian Dutch as regards feminine and masculine here... I think that is about it indeed. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Vini Diglot Newbie Brazil Joined 5109 days ago 24 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: Latin, Dutch | Message 172 of 509 08 December 2010 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi Guys, I hope some of you can help me again by correcting these sentences, I wrote all of them out of my mind practicing new vocabulary (words and verbs) I've just got to learn. Thanks in advance!
Er is een bioscoop, een schouwburg er een café op de hoek van mijn straat. Ik ga nooit een café, er is te veel lawaai in het café. Ik graag naar ga de bioscoop, de films zij heel interessant. Mijn vrouw ga nooit naar de bioscoop, Ze zegt de films zijn niet goed. Ze kijkt de televisie op thuis. Mijn dochter nooit naar leest een boek, ze leest de tijdschriften. Mijn schoonmoeder is niet ga de schouwburg vanavond, Ze is heel ziek. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nimchimpsky Diglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 5612 days ago 73 posts - 108 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English | Message 173 of 509 08 December 2010 at 5:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
Er is een bioscoop, een schouwburg en een café op de hoek van mijn straat. Ik ga nooit naar een café, er is teveel lawaai. Ik ga graag naar de bioscoop, de films zijn heel interessant. Mijn vrouw gaat nooit naar de bioscoop. Ze zegt dat de films niet goed zijn. Ze kijkt ze op de televisie thuis. Mijn dochter leest nooit een boek. Ze leest tijdschriften. Mijn schoonmoeder is niet naar de schouwburg gegaan vanavond. Ze is heel ziek. Maybe you should try to use more linking words. For example "Ik ga graag naar de bioscoop WANT de films zijn heel interessant. I don't see you using any linking word in these sentences. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5697 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 174 of 509 08 December 2010 at 11:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
I see someone's also doing Assimil. :) Remember that the verb has to be in the second position, i.e. after the subject in an unmarked sentence. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Vini Diglot Newbie Brazil Joined 5109 days ago 24 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: Latin, Dutch | Message 175 of 509 09 December 2010 at 1:48am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, I'm doing Assimil... I find it extremely difficult sometimes cause it doesn't quite explain how sentences are built... Like Subject + Verb, how negations are built, etc. Just plain dialogues with translations... It's not THAT bad but it lacks that aspect of grammar for me... Either way I'm doing my sentences building grammar research on the web aside my Assimil study, and so I'm also building vocabulary I haven't seen on the book yet. But as you commented it, Mind someone explain what is a marked and what is an unmarked sentence? PS: Thanks nimchimpsky for the corrections!! Edited by Vini on 09 December 2010 at 1:49am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5697 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 176 of 509 14 December 2010 at 12:19am | IP Logged | |||||
Sorry if I was a bit unclear. I just wrote unmarked to mean a normal sentence, as in not emphasizing anything in particular. Consider the sentence: Ik ga nooit naar een bioscoop. If you had wanted to emphasize the destination you could write: Naar een bioscoop ga ik nooit. The second one would mean something like: I never go to the cinema, with stress on the bold words. I wanted to say the verb always comes second, and that in a normal sentence like the first example, that would be the subject. In the second one, the verb still comes second, but the first element is no longer the subject. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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