Cherufe Diglot Newbie Bulgaria Joined 5036 days ago 36 posts - 38 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, EnglishC1 Studies: Dutch
| Message 345 of 509 27 March 2011 at 1:56pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, tnx
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Cherufe Diglot Newbie Bulgaria Joined 5036 days ago 36 posts - 38 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, EnglishC1 Studies: Dutch
| Message 346 of 509 27 March 2011 at 2:22pm | IP Logged |
Me again :)
Difference between snel and gauw, and what is with "hard" (hard, fast, loud) and thous two?
Yet again, thank you a lot....
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JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5765 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish
| Message 347 of 509 27 March 2011 at 2:27pm | IP Logged |
This is more difficult:
- 'snel' = fast
- 'gauw' is more often 'soon', but it could also mean in a hurry, like 'snel'
- 'hard' : only 'hardlopen' in the Netherlands (running fast literally)
Renee should check on this to be sure...
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Cherufe Diglot Newbie Bulgaria Joined 5036 days ago 36 posts - 38 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, EnglishC1 Studies: Dutch
| Message 348 of 509 27 March 2011 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
and between beginnen and aanvangen?
Thank you a lot for the help. If you ever have ideas of learning bulgarian, you can count on me :)
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JanKG Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5765 days ago 245 posts - 280 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Italian, Finnish
| Message 349 of 509 27 March 2011 at 5:13pm | IP Logged |
Well, as simple: 'aanvangen' is simply old, very old. Don't use it if not forced - or only to impress somoneone.
Bulgarian: I am quite itnerested in languages. But maybe you tell me why light and world have the same root in Slavic languages (Bulgarian is Slavic, as far as I know), (or tell me about some of the above distinctions that you don't make). Could you?
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ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5333 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French
| Message 350 of 509 27 March 2011 at 5:22pm | IP Logged |
I agree with Jan that there's a subtle difference between gauw and snel. Snel refers to the speed with which you're doing something and gauw refers to the short time it takes you to do it. Fast and soon are good translations.
Hard can mean loud, fast, hard (but not as in difficult) and harsh, depending on the context.
I'd say the difference between beginnen and aanvangen is a matter of register. Beginnen is the standard form and aanvangen is pretty formal. An official program for some kind of show will often say "Het concert vangt om half acht aan."
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5864 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 351 of 509 27 March 2011 at 6:38pm | IP Logged |
ReneeMona wrote:
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Looks like I just learned a bit about the use of the word 'register'. Jan also used it just recently as "belongs to a different register". I see that the Dutch word register has the English translation of register I think in the context of the Dutch word stijlniveau which would literally translate as style level.
It looks like register is used in both languages as a linguistic word. I think in common, non-linguistic English, I would use the word style or tone or some similar word but I think register is the proper word. Thanks for the education.
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Cherufe Diglot Newbie Bulgaria Joined 5036 days ago 36 posts - 38 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, EnglishC1 Studies: Dutch
| Message 352 of 509 27 March 2011 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
I don't know the history of the roods of those words, but if I need to bet I will say that they all came from some religious context, Christianity or even earlier.
Something like the world begins with light....
Also a lot of word that are connected with "holly" have the same roods (saint comes to mind)
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