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| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes  Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 33 of 126 09 June 2014 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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(Thanks all!)
What is the difference between: 1a. Er will sich ein neues Sportfahhrad kaufen 1b. Er will ein neues Sportfahhrad kaufen. 2a. Er handelt von den romantischen Abenteuern eines Mannes in Deutschland. 2b. Er ist von den romantischen Abenteuern eines Mannes in Deutschland. Genitiv case. I am trying to parse the following clause: "one of the most interesting films" einer der interresantesten Filme The ein would suggest it's singular possesive case, but the plural "Filme" shoots that theory. OK. So everything is plural genitiv case here? I would have expected it to be ein der interresantesten Filme Like: Ich lese das Buch des Mannes. Edited by Gemuse on 09 June 2014 at 5:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 34 of 126 09 June 2014 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
1a makes it clear that he wants to buy the bike for himself, not for some other person. It's just like in English: "I'm going to buy myself a new bike."
I guess "er" refers to "Roman", "Bericht", or "Artikel". 2a sounds better. 2b isn't very idiomatic German and sounds rather clumsy.
"Einer" is nominative singular, "der interessantesten Filme" is genitive plural: "one of the most interesting films". It needs to be "einer", because this is an indefinite pronoun and not the indefinte article. However, I don't understand what "Ich lese das Buch des Mannes" has got to do with it. It's exactly the same construction: a noun (in this case, accusative) defined by a genitive construction. Edited by Josquin on 09 June 2014 at 6:45pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 35 of 126 10 June 2014 at 2:45am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks Josquin!
I was confusing einer to be an indefinite article. Also thanks for correcting the spelling mistakes! I need to figure out an editor which underlines spelling mistakes in German, like firefox/chrome do for English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 36 of 126 11 June 2014 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I wrote something which was corrected. Why was what I wrote incorrect?
eeilen <-> beeilen 1. Ich bin geeilet, um den Bus zu erreichen. Correction: Ich habe mich beeilt, um den Bus zu erreichen. 2. Ich werde eeilen, um den Zug zu erreichen. Correction: Ich werde mich beeilen, um den Zug zu erreichen. Doesnt eeilen mean to hurry up? And the dictionary had both haben and sein for the past participle of eeilen. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4522 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 37 of 126 11 June 2014 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Firefox and Chrome (and other browsers too) can do spell checking in German, you just
have to activate it. In Chrome you have to add the language in the language settings, then you can switch the language to be spell-checked in every text field by right- clicking into it and ... well, you'll figure out the rest, it's straight forward. eilen vs. beeilen 1. it's "eilen", not "eeilen" 2. the past participle is "geeilt", not "geeilet" 3. "ist geeilt" vs. "hat geeilt" I would say with persons (or animals), you use "sein" (because it's a moving action), otherwise "haben" (eg. "es hat geeilt" = "it was urgent") 4. As a synonym of "beeilen", it is used with "haben" in the perfect tense, but it sounds odd/archaic, use "beeilen" instead 5. With the meaning "move fast", you use "sein" in the perfect tense. Your sentences with "eilen": Ich bin zum Bus geeilt. Ich werde zum Zug eilen. (this sounds a bit stilted) Edited by daegga on 11 June 2014 at 11:29pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| fnord Triglot Groupie Switzerland Joined 5034 days ago 71 posts - 124 votes Speaks: German*, Swiss-German, English Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch | Message 38 of 126 12 June 2014 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Without knowing what the point of your assignment / exercise was…
Save for your incorrect spelling of “geeilt” (as daegga already mentioned), this frankly doesn’t sound wrong at all to me. It might not be a colloquial expression, but it sure sounds correct.
The problem with this correction is: “Ich habe mich beeilt” may be the more common and colloquial way of saying. But it’s not necessarily the best expression, depending on context and meaning. “Ich mich beeilt” can refer to almost anything the speaker did: Walking, working, writing sth., washing the dishes, peeing even… it’s very nonspecific in meaning. Whereas your sentence “Ich bin geeilt” is greatly specific, denoting a fast personal movement.
Almost the same thing. You are one character off with the spelling (“eilen”), and while it does sound somewhat stilted/old-fashioned/strange, I wouldn’t ultimately call it wrong. Edited by fnord on 12 June 2014 at 9:32pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 39 of 126 13 June 2014 at 10:45am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks fnord for indicating the connotations!
It was actually not an assignment, I wrote a bunch of sentences in German, thinking about what I might want to say in life in German, and converted them from English in my head to German on paper using my English-German dictionary. I then gave the sentences to my Lehrerin for correction. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4083 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 40 of 126 17 June 2014 at 2:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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What is the difference between:
1a. Die Katze muss zum Fenster entwischt sein. 1b. Die Katze musste zum Fenster entwischen. ? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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