Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5453 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin
| Message 25 of 51 11 July 2010 at 3:55am | IP Logged |
True, didn't think about that at all :). So, basically, instead of remembering the
article, remember the declination.
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microsnout TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Canada microsnout.wordpress Joined 5476 days ago 277 posts - 553 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 26 of 51 11 July 2010 at 5:24am | IP Logged |
dolly wrote:
The Rules of Gender for French Nouns: Why your arm is masculine, but your leg is feminine, and
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More mysterious is that a beard is feminine and a breast is masculine !
On the other hand, my wife thinks it makes perfect sense that problems are masculine and solutions are feminine.
Edited by microsnout on 11 July 2010 at 5:25am
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dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5795 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin
| Message 27 of 51 11 July 2010 at 5:58am | IP Logged |
microsnout wrote:
dolly wrote:
The Rules of Gender for French Nouns: Why your arm is masculine, but your leg is feminine, and
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More mysterious is that a beard is feminine and a breast is masculine !
On the other hand, my wife thinks it makes perfect sense that problems are masculine and solutions are feminine. |
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Ahh, but wars are feminine and treaties are masculine :o)
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lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5927 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole
| Message 28 of 51 11 July 2010 at 8:53pm | IP Logged |
Aineko wrote:
True, didn't think about that at all :). So, basically, instead of
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When I need to remember a gender in Russian (which is rare since Russian is pretty
regular concerning genders), I use an adjective or a possessive pronoun. For example:
Моя бессопасность (my safety)
Красивая больница (beautiful sickness)
Мое имя (my name)
Because adjectives and possessive pronouns change depending on gender, I can just
remember it with one of those and it works as well as remembering it would have been
with an article. 8)
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Heart of Oak Newbie Scotland Joined 5257 days ago 19 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 29 of 51 12 July 2010 at 11:35pm | IP Logged |
I've only just started learning German, so I don't know if my method works, but I just
try to associate the der, die, das with the noun, so that eventually I will just know
that I have used the correct one (and might not even know why it is the correct one).
It's a little like if someone says "salt and..." the natural answer that you are
compelled to give is pepper. You don't really think about it, it just becomes a learned
response.
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zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5349 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 30 of 51 13 July 2010 at 8:20am | IP Logged |
Heart of Oak wrote:
I've only just started learning German, so I don't know if my
method works, but I just
try to associate the der, die, das with the noun, so that eventually I will just know
that I have used the correct one (and might not even know why it is the correct one).
It's a little like if someone says "salt and..." the natural answer that you are
compelled to give is pepper. You don't really think about it, it just becomes a learned
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That is the recommended way of learning the genders of nouns (well in German). Also
learning the Plural word also when studying.
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astein Pentaglot Groupie Germany Joined 5273 days ago 80 posts - 134 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, French, Mandarin Studies: Russian, Dutch
| Message 31 of 51 13 July 2010 at 9:23am | IP Logged |
Well, I wouldn't necessarily agree with the plural. In the beginning, it is certainly very important, but later, I don't know. It takes some time to find the plural, as many sources only list the singular, and you really do develop a pretty good sense for what the plural would be. Once you get up to basic fluency, I don't see any need to continue putting in that information. Or rather, once you get to the point where you can feel what the plural should be.
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zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5349 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 32 of 51 13 July 2010 at 9:31am | IP Logged |
Well my book gives the German word and next to it the info for the plural form. So when I
open up Parley (another app like Anki). I add both the plural and singular version and
just study that way. With German it's better to learn both the Plural and Singular words
since even guessing isn't really helpful. Because some change an a -> ä, u -> ü, adds an
n, adds an nen etc.
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