TMoneytron Groupie United States Joined 4863 days ago 70 posts - 83 votes Studies: German
| Message 9 of 37 30 September 2011 at 10:04pm | IP Logged |
The only thing that would be unauthorized about producing an entire translation is if you gave it to someone else who didn't already own it or tried to sell it.
As I was saying, it would be completely legal if someone was to create a closed Wiki or page where people who actually OWN the content could help translate it back and forth. If it is used for intellectual purposes and credit is given then I fail to see the problem.
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7123 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 10 of 37 01 October 2011 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
TMoneytron wrote:
As I was saying, it would be completely legal if someone was to create a closed Wiki or page where people who actually OWN the content could help translate it back and forth. |
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Can you back this up with any literature on the subject?
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6381 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 37 01 October 2011 at 3:54am | IP Logged |
Completely legal and what Assimil thinks are two different things. Meaning that if Assimil disagrees with you although you are actually right, it will be costly for you to prove it.
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TMoneytron Groupie United States Joined 4863 days ago 70 posts - 83 votes Studies: German
| Message 12 of 37 01 October 2011 at 7:24pm | IP Logged |
That is true, newyorkeric.
I have no literature, but from what I experienced in college, most content sharing is okay if it is for academic purposes.
If you were smart about this Assimil could probably never find out, you could even make a closed Google document where people could work on it simultaneously. I honestly think it is silly that you have to jump through loops for something like this; information should be as widely available as possible (within copyright of course). This kind of project would benefit anyone who actually owned the content and learning in general.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 13 of 37 01 October 2011 at 9:06pm | IP Logged |
TMoneytron wrote:
I have no literature, but from what I experienced in college, most content sharing is okay if it is for academic purposes. |
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Are you a college? Methinks not.
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TMoneytron Groupie United States Joined 4863 days ago 70 posts - 83 votes Studies: German
| Message 14 of 37 01 October 2011 at 9:13pm | IP Logged |
Well, no. I am not JSTOR or EBSCOHost. For which many colleges pay subscription costs. I did not mean simply giving the content to someone, but collaborating over something that everyone owns for academic purposes, and not for profit, should be legal. I don't see how anyone could argue against that.
Hell, the "in thing" now is creating Google Documents for study guides. This often involved ripping large amounts of texts from sources (with or without giving credit). Would someone sue for this? I don't think a publishing company would even bother because it wasn't published. It was just used to learn the class content better.
Edited by TMoneytron on 01 October 2011 at 9:16pm
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7123 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 15 of 37 02 October 2011 at 5:59am | IP Logged |
Like I said before, contact Assimil and find out.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 16 of 37 02 October 2011 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
TMoneytron wrote:
but collaborating over something that everyone owns for academic purposes, and not for profit, should be legal. I don't see how anyone could argue against that. |
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You can argue against it quite easily -- because it's illegal.
You are merely twisting the meaning of "academic" to suit yourself. Studying a language at home is not an "academic" pursuit. People seem to assume that all learning is "fair use", but if that was the case, there'd be no commercial market for learning materials. (Which would be a bad thing, because then no-one would be writing them.
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