HenryMW Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5176 days ago 125 posts - 179 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, French Studies: Modern Hebrew
| Message 25 of 37 11 October 2011 at 6:15am | IP Logged |
Same in the US. The law protects against copying, it doesn't matter what you intend to
use it for unless of course the use falls under the fair use exception.
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TMoneytron Groupie United States Joined 4863 days ago 70 posts - 83 votes Studies: German
| Message 26 of 37 12 October 2011 at 1:50am | IP Logged |
I am confused. Then how can you copy your music? What about ripping your own DVDs? I do both of those and I am quite sure it is legal.
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jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5420 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 27 of 37 12 October 2011 at 2:08am | IP Logged |
TMoneytron wrote:
I am confused. Then how can you copy your music? What about ripping your own DVDs? I do both of those and I am quite sure it is legal. |
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Yes, copying your own music and DVDs for personal use if fine, it is when one distributes them that the problems start.
Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 12 October 2011 at 2:08am
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iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5264 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 28 of 37 12 October 2011 at 2:14am | IP Logged |
It's analogous to the old saw about freedom- "your right to swing your fist ends when it hits my face". Your right to copy ends when you start sharing the copies. Assimil translation for your own use- fine. Assimil translation for sharing, you should consult a copyright attorney. It gets complicated.
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7123 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 29 of 37 12 October 2011 at 3:17pm | IP Logged |
The global reach/access of the Internet has created a lot of grey areas in terms of copyright. For example, what do you do about works that are in the Public Domain in the US but are not so recognised in the UK? They can be legally distributed online in the US but not in the UK, but you can bet your bottom dollar someone will find a way around any restrictions. Look at BBC iplayer. If you try and watch it from a location other than the UK, the site picks up on it and blocks you, but a quick Google search reveals all sorts of easy ways around the block.
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t123 Diglot Senior Member South Africa https://github.com/t Joined 5613 days ago 139 posts - 226 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans
| Message 30 of 37 12 October 2011 at 3:50pm | IP Logged |
jazzboy.bebop wrote:
TMoneytron wrote:
I am confused. Then how can you copy your music? What about ripping your own DVDs? I do both of those and
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Yes, copying your own music and DVDs for personal use if fine, it is when one distributes them that the problems start. |
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Actually in the UK it's illegal, see here for eg: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8531415.stm
or search on Google for: format shifting uk
There is a plan to legalise it though.
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jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5420 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 31 of 37 12 October 2011 at 4:14pm | IP Logged |
t123 wrote:
jazzboy.bebop wrote:
TMoneytron wrote:
I am confused. Then how can you copy your music? What about ripping your own DVDs? I do both of those and
I am quite sure it is legal. |
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Yes, copying your own music and DVDs for personal use if fine, it is when one distributes them that the problems start. |
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Actually in the UK it's illegal, see here for eg: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8531415.stm
or search on Google for: format shifting uk
There is a plan to legalise it though.
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Technically illegal yes, but it is not something the courts have ever pursued nor ever will. Even recording something from the TV is technically illegal. I think there are still a number of laws that one could technically be prosecuted under but should have been either repealed or amended but are just simply ignored. If I remember rightly, in Scotland the law forcing everyone to attend church on a Sunday was only repealed in the last quarter of the 20th century, despite it having been long since ignored.
Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 12 October 2011 at 6:04pm
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TMoneytron Groupie United States Joined 4863 days ago 70 posts - 83 votes Studies: German
| Message 32 of 37 12 October 2011 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
I suppose the way around this would be a "dicussion group".
Someone could create a study guide to help English speakers. It seems outrageous to think that you couldn't do something like this. It happens in Universities everywhere.
If someone wants we could set up a Google Docs for discussion and commentary on specific lessons. I want to do so with Perfectionnement Allemand.
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