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| rob Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6163 days ago 287 posts - 288 votes  2 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 33 of 63 02 March 2008 at 11:03am | IP Logged | |||||
Or: I learned The Raven unto verse four And then I uttered... nevermore... 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6120 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 35 of 63 03 March 2008 at 10:32am | IP Logged | |||||
My experience has been that unless I review what I have memorized every so often, I will lose everything except the most memorable pieces (as Hencke exemplifies above). However, I am able to re-memorize very easily plus, as you surmise, the words and structure are retained and that is by far the most important part. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| MeshGearFox Senior Member United States Joined 6693 days ago 316 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian | Message 36 of 63 03 March 2008 at 10:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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This is what my Russian teacher said she had to do, actually.
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| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6357 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 37 of 63 03 March 2008 at 11:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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According to the Ebbinghaus curve, information that is learned has a 58% chance to rapidly forgotten after 20 minutes. Here's a picture of it. It also suggests that 44% is retained after one hour. As time progresses, the percentage drops a bit more.
Some people claim that by reviewing the same information strategically at those particular intervals (20 mins, 1hr, 3hrs, 9hrs, etc), it would be an efficient way of retaining the desirable information. Thus, the graph would then look a bit like this. While this particular graph does not have the exact percentages, as you can see, the retention chances are dramatically higher by reviewing at those particular intervals. Perhaps someone else can comment more on this than me. For all I know, I may be presenting erroneous information, but it does seem to make sense. Edited by JasonChoi on 03 March 2008 at 11:06am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6146 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes | Message 38 of 63 04 March 2008 at 7:24am | IP Logged | |||||
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I thought you were familiar with the concept of SRSs JasonChoi? Aren't they programmed just so to take advantage of the intervals?
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| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6357 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 39 of 63 04 March 2008 at 8:24am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm familiar with SRSs, but I don't like to use them, since I can't exactly carry my pc around when I go out for a walk ;)
I'm not too fond of paying for them either. The same is true for using palm pilots or notecards. In my opinion, the inputting time just takes too long whether it be on notecards or SRSs. During that time, I could easily memorize a short dialog. Also, in my understanding, those intervals are not the same as the ones in the Ebbinghaus curve. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ryuukohito Bilingual Diglot Groupie Malaysia Joined 6234 days ago 89 posts - 98 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Malay* Studies: French, Japanese | Message 40 of 63 06 March 2008 at 11:51am | IP Logged | |||||
It's funny how it works for me, but I would describe it this way: Initially, I may not remember the exact wording of a piece I had memorized. But when I think of the meaning (by remembering the English translation, or how a certain passage triggers a particular feeling) I get a visual 'imagery' of sorts, which leads me to lots of separate words popping up in my head; just a collection of vocabulary relevant to the meaning I'm trying to forward. From there on, I would suddenly get a vague structure of the foreign translation in my head, and a moment later, a proper sentence would form, which would then remind me of the actual original sentence I had memorized. Edited by ryuukohito on 06 March 2008 at 11:53am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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