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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5846 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 33 of 42 06 May 2010 at 8:54am | IP Logged |
JW, tienes una excellente pronunciación en el español! A mi me gusta mucho escucharla porqué no hablas como un extranjero, pero en una manera muy natural.
Translation:
JW, you have an excellent pronounciation in Spanish! I like listening to your Spanish very much because you don't speak like a foreigner but in a very natural way.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 06 May 2010 at 9:00am
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| dmaddock1 Senior Member United States Joined 5432 days ago 174 posts - 426 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Esperanto, Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 34 of 42 06 May 2010 at 3:59pm | IP Logged |
Thanks, great video and summary JW. I might have to break down and buy Buth's Koine materials because the samples sound very fluid and listenable. When I began I was advised away from modern pronunciation on the grounds that the lack of phoneme differentiation would be detrimental. His system looks like the optimal compromise and he makes a strong case against the Erasmian artificiality.
Allen-Daitz method samples I've heard are pretty good too (eg. Assimil Grec Ancien, not Daitz' "Living Voice" recordings which I think are unlistenable), though as Buth mentions in his paper, that's a better fit for older dialects.
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 35 of 42 13 May 2010 at 3:00pm | IP Logged |
Here's a little something in Italian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOZNCC2bjE&feature=email
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| Cheshire_Cat Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 5318 days ago 17 posts - 23 votes Speaks: German*, English, Russian Studies: Dari, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Norwegian, Mandarin, Mongolian, Estonian
| Message 36 of 42 14 May 2010 at 12:31pm | IP Logged |
Hi JW, at first I want to say that I enjoyed your video, I found it very interesting. Your reading was really good and your accent is reduced to a minimum.
Nevertheless I have some corrections, if you're interested in:
I'm not sure if I spotted a misstake at the beginning of the German version of the text you red, but it sounds like you said "Im Anfang war das Wort" which should be "Am Anfang war das Wort". At a later point you seem to say "im" instead of "am" again, so maybe that's a matter of pronounciation?
Then there's also a sentence "...und ohne dasselbe wird nix gemacht". If there's really written "nix" it is a misstake as the word "nix" is just used in colloquial German and surely not in a biblical text.
If it's a matter of pronounciation: Pronouncing the word "nichts" you should try to clearly pronounce the sounds ch+t+s one after the other. Must be quite difficult for an English-native-speaker, I guess. But saying "nix" it sounds like, maybe, saying "cuz" instead of "because" in English, which would not work with formal language, I guess.
I hope that doesn't seem like insulting you, just want to provide some help :)
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 37 of 42 14 May 2010 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
Cheshire_Cat wrote:
I'm not sure if I spotted a misstake at the beginning of the German version of the text you red, but it sounds like you said "Im Anfang war das Wort" which should be "Am Anfang war das Wort". At a later point you seem to say "im" instead of "am" again, so maybe that's a matter of pronounciation?
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That is very interesting. "Im Anfang" is what the text states (Luther Bible 1545):
1Im Anfang war das Wort, und das Wort war bei Gott, und Gott war das Wort.
2Dasselbe war im Anfang bei Gott. (Johannes 1:1-2)
However, Genesis 1:1 has "Am Anfang"
1Am Anfang schuf Gott Himmel und Erde. (1 Mose 1:1)
In English, both are "in the beginning" and in the other languages I know (French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Greek) John 1 and Genesis 1 are the same.
I wonder why the German uses "Im Anfang" in John 1? I can only assume that "Im Anfang" is correct but possibly outdated? If so, I wonder what the disctinction between "Im Anfang" and "Am Anfang" was...
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Then there's also a sentence "...und ohne dasselbe wird nix gemacht". If there's really written "nix" it is a misstake as the word "nix" is just used in colloquial German and surely not in a biblical text.
If it's a matter of pronounciation: Pronouncing the word "nichts" you should try to clearly pronounce the sounds ch+t+s one after the other. Must be quite difficult for an English-native-speaker, I guess. But saying "nix" it sounds like, maybe, saying "cuz" instead of "because" in English, which would not work with formal language, I guess. |
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This is just my poor pronunciation of "nichts" I will work on that.
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I hope that doesn't seem like insulting you, just want to provide some help :) |
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Not at all, I appreciate the feedback :)
Edited by JW on 14 May 2010 at 5:05pm
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| Wise owl chick Senior Member Ecuador Joined 5317 days ago 122 posts - 137 votes Studies: English
| Message 38 of 42 14 May 2010 at 5:27pm | IP Logged |
JW, I find that you speak very clearly, which is nice and made possible to understand everything. I don't know Koine Greek, but the other languages that you read.
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 39 of 42 04 June 2010 at 7:24pm | IP Logged |
Here's a little multilingual memory exercise I did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXO2gIsL0D4
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| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6121 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 40 of 42 26 July 2010 at 11:33pm | IP Logged |
Here is something in Hebrew:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHFmobLkIdM
Edited by JW on 26 July 2010 at 11:34pm
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