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hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6043 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 81 of 88 11 November 2011 at 12:13am | IP Logged |
It sounded real to me. My wife is native Russian speaker. Now she has very good English. A few year before moving to the USA, she was learning English. She had limited English, but she worked at speaking English. She applied to a tourist hotel near Moscow. During the interview the Russian asked about her English level. She began to answer in English. For them, she was fluent in English. In the hotel, if you know the English needed to give basic services to the English speaking guest you are fluent.
The interviewer seemed to use a similar view of languages.
At present, my wife knows well over 7000 English words and can understand most Americans. She complains about her poor English.
The word fluent does not mean much to me.
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| dandas Pentaglot Newbie Spain Joined 4629 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, Russian, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian Studies: German, Swedish, Sign Language, French
| Message 82 of 88 11 November 2011 at 4:18am | IP Logged |
@hobbitofny I`m with you on this one, because it was similar situation. Plus when you are about to have an
interview for interior designer, you`re gonna study what`s most likely to use in that field, you`re not gonna get the
vocabulary for engineer.
Anyway, the whole thing was to give my point of view about RS, which I did.
As for the Spanish, I got B2 level. Fluent or not, whatever it means, I`m happy with the result for the time spend
studying and will continue to improve.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5144 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 83 of 88 11 November 2011 at 7:41am | IP Logged |
dandas wrote:
@hobbitofny I`m with you on this one, because it was similar situation. Plus when you are about to have an
interview for interior designer, you`re gonna study what`s most likely to use in that field, you`re not gonna get the
vocabulary for engineer.
Anyway, the whole thing was to give my point of view about RS, which I did.
As for the Spanish, I got B2 level. Fluent or not, whatever it means, I`m happy with the result for the time spend
studying and will continue to improve.
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I learned Italian in three weeks (grantedly after extensive reading in beforehand), because I already knew similar languages - a background in other Romance languages and full immersion will do that. I did not even pick up a book while I was in Italy, just talked to people.
I cannot see what your native language is, or other languages you know, just that you are learning Swedish. Can you fill us inn on that, to satisfy my curiosity?
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| dandas Pentaglot Newbie Spain Joined 4629 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, Russian, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian Studies: German, Swedish, Sign Language, French
| Message 84 of 88 11 November 2011 at 2:04pm | IP Logged |
Hello Solfrid Cristin, I`ve tried twice to fill the language, but I guess I did something wrong.
Native language is Bulgarian, speak, Russian, Serbian. Swedish and Sign language are very poor, because I`ve
forgotten everything, didn`t use them for a very long time. If English counts, then I`ll put it in :) and German
Rosetta Stone L1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - Level... retarded
I`m required as well to learn some Italian, very basic and after I was listening to group of Italians the other day, I
was able to understand a lot, so I hope its gonna be easy.
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| dandas Pentaglot Newbie Spain Joined 4629 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, Russian, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian Studies: German, Swedish, Sign Language, French
| Message 85 of 88 11 November 2011 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
Done, languages fixed... I think :)
Edited by dandas on 11 November 2011 at 2:20pm
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| joesoefkalla Newbie Indonesia Joined 4522 days ago 22 posts - 22 votes Studies: English
| Message 86 of 88 01 January 2012 at 11:31am | IP Logged |
chelovek wrote:
So, bottom line: I find that RS Russian is difficult to make progress unless you are already comfortable with grammar. |
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This is very true.
Anybody else agree with that statement? :)
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| Lugubert Heptaglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6677 days ago 186 posts - 235 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Danish, Norwegian, EnglishC2, German, Dutch, French Studies: Mandarin, Hindi
| Message 87 of 88 01 January 2012 at 7:05pm | IP Logged |
joesoefkalla wrote:
chelovek wrote:
So, bottom line: I find that RS Russian is difficult to make progress unless you are already comfortable with grammar. |
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This is very true.
Anybody else agree with that statement? :) |
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Agree! It must be totally impossible to, for example, learn the difference between perfective and imperfective verbs the Rosetta way.
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| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4511 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese
| Message 88 of 88 13 January 2012 at 7:15am | IP Logged |
I actually tried RS for a bit. Picked up some grammar points, but overall, I see it as an entertaining vocab trainer with excellent pronunced flash cards. The vocab you learn there, however, will last you forever.
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