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reineke
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 Message 17 of 28
12 January 2009 at 12:00pm | IP Logged 
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
After two chapters of a Hugarian book, I couldn't pick up ONE SINGLE WORD. :-) I presume the reason was unusual word order and distant grammar. I suppose if you know nothing of the target language's family or group, perhaps you should like to learn some basics.


No, it couldn't possibly be that.

Edited by reineke on 12 January 2009 at 1:05pm

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charlmartell
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 Message 18 of 28
12 January 2009 at 12:16pm | IP Logged 
chelovek wrote:
I don't really understand...how is this so different from the normal LR technique?

It's even more painful (siomotteikiru's word for what to expect for the first few hours). Instead of reading the book first in English to make sure you know what it's all about (while listening to the sounds of the target language in the background), then trying to match the 2 versions (words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs) before attempting to make any kind of sense of the unknown, MarcoDiAngelo plunges right in at the deep and and compares both languages, carefully. And, as he found out when trying his method on a non-Slavic language, painfully and ineffectively. His method does work well for closely related languages though. Very well indeed, because we only have to pay attention to the differences, variations on a theme, we're not grappling with the Great Unknown.
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MarcoDiAngelo
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 Message 19 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:17pm | IP Logged 
Is German closely related to Serbian? Hungarian is non-Indoeuropean language; for IE languages this method works just fine. And Siomo wrote that for absolute begginers first chapters or stories word-for-word texts should be made. I am a begginer in Hungarian (simply because it's not an ordinary European language), and I lack such materials.

Edited by MarcoDiAngelo on 12 January 2009 at 1:26pm

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MarcoDiAngelo
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 Message 20 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:29pm | IP Logged 
reineke wrote:
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
After two chapters of a Hugarian book, I couldn't pick up ONE SINGLE WORD. :-) I presume the reason was unusual word order and distant grammar. I suppose if you know nothing of the target language's family or group, perhaps you should like to learn some basics.


No, it couldn't possibly be that.

Molim te, ne budi arogantan po obicaju.
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reineke
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 Message 21 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:35pm | IP Logged 
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
reineke wrote:
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
After two chapters of a Hugarian book, I couldn't pick up ONE SINGLE WORD. :-) I presume the reason was unusual word order and distant grammar. I suppose if you know nothing of the target language's family or group, perhaps you should like to learn some basics.


No, it couldn't possibly be that.

Molim te, ne budi arogantan po obicaju.


OMG, I, like, understood everything!
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MarcoDiAngelo
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 Message 22 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:40pm | IP Logged 
You don't speak Croatian? So you're also a liar?
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frenkeld
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 Message 23 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:49pm | IP Logged 
Even I probably understood it, except for "obisaju".

I think reineke is skeptical about LR in general.



Edited by frenkeld on 12 January 2009 at 1:50pm

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MarcoDiAngelo
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 Message 24 of 28
12 January 2009 at 1:59pm | IP Logged 
I'd rather say he is being rude. It means по обычаю.


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