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habadzi
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 Message 25 of 53
15 April 2010 at 1:40am | IP Logged 
Whoever figured out how to market RS is a genius. You see the Italian village boy with this under his arm, with only one chance to enchant the american girl of his dreams. All the airports have it of course. And people have heard it. Just yesterday a colleague was going to buy it, and of course she got immedicately redirected towards other options.
Just marketing really is all that matters. I wonder if they have not messed with the reviews of amazon.com
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Johntm
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 Message 26 of 53
15 April 2010 at 5:03am | IP Logged 
habadzi wrote:
Whoever figured out how to market RS is a genius. You see the Italian village boy with this under his arm, with only one chance to enchant the american girl of his dreams. All the airports have it of course. And people have heard it. Just yesterday a colleague was going to buy it, and of course she got immedicately redirected towards other options.
Just marketing really is all that matters. I wonder if they have not messed with the reviews of amazon.com
I went to a Barnes and Noble today and got a $6 Spanish Grammar book, but I could not believe the amount of RS crap they had. They had some in the foreign language section (of course), on a stand not too far from the language section, and behind the check out counter.
But yes, they do have marketing genius.
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hypersport
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 Message 27 of 53
15 April 2010 at 5:33am | IP Logged 
When I decided to learn Spanish on my own 4 years ago, I bought Rosetta stone 1 and 2, Latin America version.

I think I spent like $350.00. Yeah, it was expensive, but I was comparing that with the price of classes at the University and I thought why not.

I really enjoyed it and got a lot out of it. I was using it right away talking with natives and using the stuff that I was learning. I think it comes down to how much someone really wants something.

Sure, there's other good courses. I put LSLC and FSI at the top of my list and have done them both several times, but Rosetta Stone isn't as bad as some say. True, it's overpriced but if you've got the money, it can be another good tool in your bag.
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Delodephius
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 Message 28 of 53
15 April 2010 at 12:42pm | IP Logged 
I'm surprised how many language learners don't know how to find these software courses on-line for free. Sure it's not exactly legal...
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Johntm
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 Message 29 of 53
16 April 2010 at 5:31am | IP Logged 
hypersport wrote:


I really enjoyed it and got a lot out of it. I was using it right away talking with natives and using the stuff that I was learning. I think it comes down to how much someone really wants something.

You can talk right away with natives with any half-decent Spanish course (although you will be limited as to what you can say, of course).

Delodephius wrote:
I'm surprised how many language learners don't know how to find these software courses on-line for free. Sure it's not exactly legal...

Some people don't want to bother with the illegality and risk getting caught, have moral objections, etc. etc.
But I do get some stuff from torrents (FSI and some other stuff).
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C6Silver
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 Message 30 of 53
16 April 2010 at 6:45am | IP Logged 
I don't believe that RS can prohibit the re-sale of their product. This is the same issue facing people who re-sell computer and console games and even though those companies don't like it, it is legal. This is based on the First Sale Doctrine which permits the sale of an original copy of software as a full transfer of ownership. I do not believe that RS, nor any other software company, has legal grounds to prevent your re-sale of the original copy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

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TerryW
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 Message 31 of 53
17 April 2010 at 2:25am | IP Logged 
habadzi wrote:
You see the Italian village boy with this under his arm, with only one chance to enchant the american girl of his dreams.


Really? 'Cause over here they have just the opposite; an American farm boy and an Italian model.

And it kinda looks a little something like this:


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goosefrabbas
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 Message 32 of 53
17 April 2010 at 3:47am | IP Logged 
C6Silver wrote:
I don't believe that RS can prohibit the re-sale of their product. This is the same issue facing people who re-sell computer and console games and even though those companies don't like it, it is legal. This is based on the First Sale Doctrine which permits the sale of an original copy of software as a full transfer of ownership. I do not believe that RS, nor any other software company, has legal grounds to prevent your re-sale of the original copy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine


Rosetta Stone says they sell the license to use the product. And in the EULA it states that the license to use their products is non-transferable.


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