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| Quinn Senior Member United States Joined 6136 days ago 134 posts - 186 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French, Italian, Spanish | Message 49 of 53 25 June 2011 at 12:51am | IP Logged | ||
I wouldn't be at all surprised if their legal dept tries to prohibit re-sale, but I agree with you. What I don't understand is why does everyone seem to think software so special? It's a mechanism for delivering content, just like a book, a DVD, a CD, etc. If software companies can block consumers from re-selling their products than publishers and record labels should have the same right, which would mean that no one could ever re-sell anything educational. Edited by Quinn on 25 June 2011 at 1:08am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| msymons Newbie PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4413 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Studies: Polish | Message 50 of 53 22 April 2012 at 9:54am | IP Logged | ||
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I tried RS Polish and wasted nearly 3 months of frustrating time with it. It might be fine for just learning vocab at best...but it's downright awful for grammar and pronouns, especially when trying to decipher the distinct cases.
After 3 months I discovered MT Polish Foundation+Advanced audio course and what a difference. I actually enjoyed learning Polish and was motivated again. After completing MT in less than 2 months I then quickly whizzed thru Pimsleur in a month. I'm now using Anki flashcards while going thru Assimil Polish. Not sure about Assimil so far. Def liked MT the best and would highly recommend...at least for Polish :-) I cannot recommend RS at all. In fact I think it can do more damage than good regards learning Polish IMHO. The price is ludicrous too. Slick marketing though. It's even on British TV ads during the afternoon when all the quiz shows run. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4547 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 51 of 53 24 April 2012 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | ||
The difference is in how the different media are typically used. If the software was used only by putting the physical disk into your computer's CD / DVD drive, then it would be essentially equivalent to how books, CDs, and DVDs are typically used. However, that is not how software is used. With software you copy / install the entire thing onto your hard drive and then use that copy. If the software producers allowed people to install the software and then transfer the installation disks, they would end up with dozens of copies of their software being used simultaneously for each copy that they sold. In the first place, the software companies couldn't stay in business on that basis. In the second place, that kind of reproduction and redistribution is not legal for any copyrighted material. You're not legally allowed to copy and then re-sell DVDs or CDs (that's the whole "piracy" issue that they've been fighting for years.) You're also not allowed to photocopy entire books and re-sell them. (A couple pages can come under "fair use"; entire books do not.) If you don't think that book publishers would come after you if they discovered you were copying and re-selling their books (and were in a jurisdiction where they could get at you), then you've got another thing coming. In the specific case of the recent versions of RS, if you intend to install it on your computer and then re-sell it (regardless of whether you stop using RS yourself), then I wish you a lot of luck; that is if you don't want to have an unhappy buyer demanding their money back. Each copy now comes with a card in the box with an individual key code. To install the software (or at least to activate it) you must connect to the internet so that their installer can "talk" to their web site and get you all registered as a user. If the key code has already been used for your original installation, the person who bought it from you will have an expensive set of coasters (about all the disks will be useful for at that point). On the other hand, I guarantee you that the RS people couldn't care less whether you re-sell the headset that comes in the box with their software. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6410 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 52 of 53 24 April 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Why don't they do like in the good old times, when you could only play the game when the CD is in the drive? Even here in Russia you have to buy computer games legally for example...
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| camdo2 Newbie United States Joined 4488 days ago 26 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 53 of 53 26 April 2012 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | ||
On your first point, there are several ways to circumvent this kind of protection (and this feature is already on all games/software anyways). One is to mount the image file. This is creating a virtual disk drive that is mounting the image. Another way is to have a crack. This will disable the security functionality. Finally, another way is to burn the image file onto a disk. Then, you essentially have a carbon copy of the disk. On your second point, that's completely false. Back on topic though: I tried rosetta stone and I thought it was fine. Not worth the money or the effort it takes to use it. THe time investment/gain ratio is exceptionally low. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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