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Haukilahti Triglot Groupie Finland Joined 4962 days ago 94 posts - 126 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Polish
| Message 113 of 125 26 September 2011 at 2:48pm | IP Logged |
EricsonWillians wrote:
Well, but I have this necessity, I really want to learn a Slavic Language, since I
speak none of them, I think that by learning some of polish I'll have less problems
when I begin to explore the Russian Language. |
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I'd suggest the opposite way. First Russian, then Polish.
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| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4747 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish
| Message 114 of 125 18 December 2011 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
EricsonWillians wrote:
Kartof wrote:
Not to be nosy, but what about Bulgarian? No cases, similar sounds to
Portuguese, complex verbs like in
Portuguese, and a lot of vocabulary in common with Russian. The only hinderance may be
Cyrillic, which may be
an advantage if you're confused by consonant clusters and diacritics. If you have a
particular attachment to Polish,
disregard what I just said :). |
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I've developed a particular taste by the Polish language, because of this natural
thought that the language is hard, but I'll take a look at the Bulgarian, it sounds
very interesting (Despite the complexity of the verbs just like in Portuguese, that's
not a very attractive thing hahaha). The verbs of my language are really hard, and it's
funny the fact that the majority of the Brazilian people don't speak their language
CORRECTLY (In fact, that's really frustrating and bloody shameful). I speak good
Portuguese, but because of me, a lot of people here are very ignorant. I don't know if
that happens in European countries, but here a lot of people just speak
Portuguese WRONG. |
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We Brazilians don't speak their language wrong. we live in a diglossic situation.
Just like Swiss Germans. Swiss German is not incorrect German although it's very different from formal written German. In fact, our language is more Brazilian than it is Portuguese, so what. Portuguese is incorrect Latin too, it's a bastardized Latin, ''wrong'', vulgar Latin, if you wish.
Edited by Camundonguinho on 18 December 2011 at 1:25am
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| EricsonWillians Triglot Newbie Brazil myspace.com/pois Joined 5003 days ago 8 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Polish, Italian
| Message 115 of 125 18 December 2011 at 8:40am | IP Logged |
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Just like Swiss Germans. Swiss German is not incorrect German although it's
very
different from formal written German. In fact, our language is more Brazilian than it
is Portuguese, so what. Portuguese is incorrect Latin too, it's a bastardized Latin,
''wrong'', vulgar Latin, if you wish. |
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I understand your point of view, but it is a point of view. Our country speaks
officially Portuguese, and theoretically we were supposed to speak "correctly", which
means, conjugate the verbs properly, use the second-person plural "vós" without reading
the bible, etc. I'd rather also speak "BRAZILIAN", that would be more "correct", but
the difference is not so big yet, maybe that will happen in the future.
The people in Portugal don't speak LATIN, I mean, they don't say such a thing, so, they
can speak "wrong Latin" as frequently as they wish. But that was not my point of view,
I wished to say that we have some very extreme problems with education, it's not a
"official" problem, it's an educational problem, we both know that. Sincerely, I'm not
satisfied with the education of my country, I have only 20 years old, so, I've met a
lot of "young people", and these fellows have a TERRIBLE portuguese.
No, they speak such an alien language, entirely "slang".. I've never been in
Switzerland, but I'm pretty sure that they speak their "different German" more politely
than our "different Portuguese".
Keep yourself very well fellow brazilian!
Edited by EricsonWillians on 18 December 2011 at 8:41am
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 116 of 125 18 December 2011 at 8:51am | IP Logged |
From the linguistic point of view all languages and dialects are equal.
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| EricsonWillians Triglot Newbie Brazil myspace.com/pois Joined 5003 days ago 8 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Polish, Italian
| Message 117 of 125 18 December 2011 at 9:27am | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
From the linguistic point of view all languages and dialects are equal.
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I agree...
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| Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4822 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 118 of 125 23 December 2011 at 7:26pm | IP Logged |
Except portuguese and russian. Those languages are just wrong.
**kidding**
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4649 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 119 of 125 02 March 2012 at 7:34pm | IP Logged |
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Ś - corresponds to Mandarin "x" [ɕ]
Sz - corresponds to "sh" [ʂ]
Ć - corresponds to "j" [t͡ɕ]
Cz - corresponds to "zh" [t͡ʂ]
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I never knew that Mandarin has the same sounds as Polish. Does that mean Mandarin is easy for Polish speakers and vice versa?
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| pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5726 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian
| Message 120 of 125 03 March 2012 at 12:22pm | IP Logged |
Zireael wrote:
Quote:
Ś - corresponds to Mandarin "x" [ɕ]
Sz - corresponds to "sh" [ʂ]
Ć - corresponds to "j" [t͡ɕ]
Cz - corresponds to "zh" [t͡ʂ]
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I never knew that Mandarin has the same sounds as Polish. Does that mean Mandarin is easy for Polish speakers and vice versa?
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Polish has even more overlaping sounds with different languages. Does it make it easy to learn all of them then?
It means that it will just be a little bit easier I assume.
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