|
 |
Would you recomd. your strategy | ||
Tags: Learning Strategy | ||
Share with:
| ||
 Language Learning Forum : Learning Techniques, Methods & Strategies |  | |
 Keith Diglot Moderator JapanRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6573 days ago 526 posts - 536 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 30 13 July 2010 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
This thread proves there is a lot of different advice or different recommendations on how to learn a language.
Would I recommend my strategy? Yes. But not to just anyone. I would first have to question the learner to find out if they qualify. Only a few special people are really qualified. The others would just give up right away, so it's not really worth spending the time trying to encourage them. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Andrew~ Groupie United States howlearnspanish.com Joined 5064 days ago 42 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 10 of 30 13 July 2010 at 6:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
If their OBJECTIVE(s) in learning the language was the same as mine, then yes, I would. However, I place a lot of emphasis on being able to speak with native speakers, I place more emphasis on that than anything else, and if you're more concerned about being able to read the literature of the language, then my method, I guarantee you, would not be the best one for you to use.
It depends on what you want to do, what you intend to use the language for. Edited by Andrew~ on 13 July 2010 at 6:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6201 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 11 of 30 13 July 2010 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's nonsense. Eugene Nida states that almost anyone can learn a foreign language and Gunnermark and Gethin say the same thing with different words in the art and science of language learning. It isn't that hard. Saying that "only a few special people are qualified" without any references to back this up is elitist, ridiculous, and perhaps more importantly without reference or argument. It is just a statement. I have three heavyweight polyglots behind my argument who do you have behind yours???? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6235 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 12 of 30 13 July 2010 at 11:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Just because almost anyone can learn a foreign language doesn't mean that almost anyone can learn a foreign language via a specific strategy which is demanding in some unusual way. If Keith's method requires something particularly difficult, his statement is perfectly reasonable.
Argument from authority is a logical fallacy - and your citation shows no comprehension of what was actually said in the post you are responding to, because your reply does not address it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6201 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 13 of 30 14 July 2010 at 12:07am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
No method for learning a foreign language is particularly difficult: Can you name one that is?
1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6201 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 14 of 30 14 July 2010 at 12:09am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
I understand what Keith is saying. He thinks that not everybody is qualified to use his special ultra method.
1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6235 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 15 of 30 14 July 2010 at 12:48am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Sure, a lot of methods are for various people. Memorizing whole books word-for-word is difficult for most people. Audio-based methods are difficult for the deaf. Methods based on written literature are difficult for the severely dyslexic or functionally illiterate. Drill-based methods are totally unsuitable (and extremely difficult) for people like me who turn off thinking and do the drills mechanically - I can profit from some grammar-based exercises, etc, but I simply cannot successfully use FSI. True L-R is impossible for people who don't have the time to do it intensively. Methods which are contrary to your perception about how you should learn, or otherwise frustrate you or cause cognitive dissonance are more difficult. Methods which take a lot of self-discipline, rote learning, or other attribute in which the average level of your society is low are going to be difficult for most members of that society. Some of these barriers can be overcome, but they're still barriers. You'll also find no end of forum posts from people who have become fluent in one or more languages, but find certain methods that others here enjoy to be difficult, inefficient, or impossible to use for various reasons - many of the Assimil vs FSI threads illustrate this. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5473 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 16 of 30 14 July 2010 at 1:13am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
I would recommend programs to beginners, but probably not specific strategies. Most
programs I use aren't too intimidating or complex for beginners. However, some of my strategies sound difficult until they're tried. Once a beginner has gotten used to the programs, I might suggest alternative ways of using them. 1 person has voted this message useful |
|  | 
Printable version
|
| Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization. |
