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Dead Language or Constructed Language?

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Poll Question: Dead or Constructed Language? (see OP for full question)
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fireflies
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 Message 17 of 52
13 October 2010 at 3:49am | IP Logged 
Old Chemist wrote:
Someone who knew my linguistic dabbling suggested I learn Klingon, but I didn't take her suggestion seriously; I would draw the line at something I consider pretty useless - I like Star Trek, but could never contemplate even learning lines in English or a "real" language, let alone Klingon.


Hehe :P The first thing that came to mind was talking to the people who dress in Klingon garb at conventions. I would rather learn Klingon than the language from Avatar *if I had to choose* because I would rather communicate with people dressed as Klingons than people dressed as the Avatar Na'vi.

However, I agree that Klingon seems useless except perhaps to very dedicated fans or people interested in constructed languages.

Tolkien's constructed languages are probably more interesting



Edited by fireflies on 13 October 2010 at 3:51am

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GREGORG4000
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 Message 18 of 52
13 October 2010 at 4:18am | IP Logged 
Klingon looks interesting but I'm not all that interested in Star Trek... as for a "dead language", I would like to learn Hittite very much.
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Juаn
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 Message 19 of 52
13 October 2010 at 4:50am | IP Logged 
Many of the "dead" languages that are still learnt into the present have some the greatest literatures of *any* language, dead or alive.

The opposite is true of constructed languages.

So the choice for me is simple.

Learners with different priorities who enjoy the company of like-minded people and perhaps even role-playing will of course derive greater pleasure from constructed languages.
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Jatk17
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 Message 20 of 52
13 October 2010 at 5:04am | IP Logged 
fireflies wrote:
Does anyone here study Klingon?

I chose dead languages. Latin would be neat if I had to pick one but I don't think I would enjoy it much since its mostly just in books.


My Portuguese Professor is fluent in Klingon, and was awarded an honorary commission into the Klingon Fleet or something like that, at a World Star Trek Convention.
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zyz
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 Message 21 of 52
13 October 2010 at 7:25am | IP Logged 
This one's kinda painful.

For dead languages there's the literature (in particular I'm thinking of classical
Chinese poetry) and the associated prestige. Against, from what I've read of classical
Chinese I might actually lose the struggle with it.

For conlangs, there's the fascinating design goals of several particular ones, as Ari
mentioned. Also, I'm interested in the dynamics of a purely self-selected language
community. Against, the stigma associated (viz. this thread).

Right now I'm leaning towards dead language. It's close though.

joke answer: does this linguistic department offer courses in unknown dead languages?
Deciphering one of the several uncracked written languages would be pretty rad, and
you'd also get a book deal out of it easy.
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Deshwi
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 Message 22 of 52
13 October 2010 at 7:39am | IP Logged 
I'd go for the dead language. I don't have any interest in constructed languages. I'd probably go for either Sanskrit or Old English, or maybe Latin.
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John Smith
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 Message 23 of 52
13 October 2010 at 9:08am | IP Logged 
Latin beats Esperanto any day.
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maydayayday
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 Message 24 of 52
13 October 2010 at 9:56am | IP Logged 
I can understand peoples interest in constructed languages but for me they are probably most useful as an intermediary in machine translation.

My vote goes to dead language please: looking at pre-Proto Indo European, unfortunately there aren't the material available to work out how the very first languages originated. How did humans start to speak? Was there a single mother tongue from which all other human languages originated, if so when did clicks and tones originate/die out in the daughter languages....

A question never to be answered apart from in my dreams.




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