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Intelligibility, Afrikaans & Dutch?

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Ncruz
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Speaks: Spanish, English*, Dutch, Portuguese, Afrikaans
Studies: French, German, Italian, Russian, Norwegian, Japanese, Scottish Gaelic

 
 Message 33 of 36
01 December 2010 at 1:34am | IP Logged 
CheeseInsider wrote:
   Do you think you'd be able to post a link to the thread you were talking about? :) Thanks for your reply!


Here's the link to that thread. It was pretty short, but still interesting:

http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=18656&PN=1&TPN=1#207780

Wikipedia also has a fairly thorough article about the differences between the two languages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differences_between_Afrikaans_a nd_Dutch




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EmmiInEurope
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South Africa
nederlandsvirafrikaa
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Speaks: Afrikaans*, English, French, Dutch
Studies: Spanish

 
 Message 34 of 36
01 December 2010 at 8:54am | IP Logged 
Ncruz wrote:
CheeseInsider wrote:
   Do you think you'd be able to post a link to
the thread you were talking about? :) Thanks for your reply!


Here's the link to that thread. It was pretty short, but still interesting:

http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T
ID=18656&PN=1&TPN=1#207780

Wikipedia also has a fairly thorough article about the differences between the two
languages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differences_between_Afrikaans_a nd_Dutch





I like the wiki article too. They mention that Afrikaans was much influenced by
English. This is a statement I've heard/read from several places. However I can't find
specific examples of how it was influenced. If anyone knows more on this topic, please
share!

Re Orkney Snorknie - just have to make clear that it is set in a mining community -
i.e. characters are supposed to imitate 'common' working class people - the accent is
more flat, and uses lot of 'slang', than you would find in general. But yes, it was a
very popular show back then...(*embarrassed blush*)

EDIT: a more current show (soapie in fact), is "7de laan" - there is an extract on
Youtube that features Deon Meyer, and I think the language in that might be easier to
understand.

Edited by EmmiInEurope on 01 December 2010 at 9:46am

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Syntax
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South Africa
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Speaks: English*, Afrikaans*, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian
Studies: Mandarin

 
 Message 35 of 36
14 December 2010 at 8:19am | IP Logged 
EmmiInEurope wrote:

I like the wiki article too. They mention that Afrikaans was much influenced by
English. This is a statement I've heard/read from several places. However I can't find
specific examples of how it was influenced. If anyone knows more on this topic, please
share!


I am not sure if this is exactly relevant, but in old Afrikaans you would say: "ek heet
Syntax" (Following, i think, the German form "ich heiBe Syntax"). English influence has
led us to rather say "ek is Syntax" or "my naam is Syntax".

Also, there is a distinct tendency to use English words in stead of Afrikaans when the
English is shorter. Some purists would attempt at speaking only Afrikaans, but that
often sounds very unnatural (well, at least to me).

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ReneeMona
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Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2
Studies: French

 
 Message 36 of 36
14 December 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged 
Quote:
I am not sure if this is exactly relevant, but in old Afrikaans you would say: "ek heet Syntax" (Following, i think, the German form "ich heiBe Syntax").


Since Afrikaans is derived from Dutch, I would say it comes from the Dutch "ik heet Syntax" instead.


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