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| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 4925 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes  Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 41 of 64 17 December 2010 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Well yeah, I did mention it only concerned universities and that other schools were different, be that IEPs, GEs or B&M schools (IEPs and B&M schools are not free, though). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Huliganov Octoglot Senior Member Poland huliganov.tvRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5166 days ago 91 posts - 304 votes Speaks: English*, Polish, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Esperanto, Czech Studies: Romanian, Turkish, Mandarin, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 42 of 64 17 December 2010 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
OK, having got your permission I shall unblock the post, it is the latest on huliganov.tv 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 4925 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 43 of 64 18 December 2010 at 11:05am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
One very last question, what would be a "good grammar book" for you? I use Wade and Offord's grammar books, is there one in particular that I should be aware of? (I'll stop hijacking the thread now!) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| sydneycarton Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5319 days ago 23 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 44 of 64 18 December 2010 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
What nonsense. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5229 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 46 of 64 19 December 2010 at 2:26am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Indeed, I had to shake my head when I saw the extent of the protests. I bet quite a large number of people at those protests would have thought twice about going out marching had they bothered to educate themselves fully about how these changes were to be brought about and what other changes would be made to the system other than just the rise in fees. It would help if the media tried to make more clear some of the improvements made over the current system though. There really isn't anything I can see which should put off people from poorer backgrounds from going to university. It is not like they need to pay anything up front and don't need to pay anything at all until they earn over £21k. Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 19 December 2010 at 10:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Huliganov Octoglot Senior Member Poland huliganov.tvRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5166 days ago 91 posts - 304 votes Speaks: English*, Polish, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Esperanto, Czech Studies: Romanian, Turkish, Mandarin, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 47 of 64 19 December 2010 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
I think that the Offord book is a good standard. And from there going on to his Using Russian is a good move. Wade is also a staple. I have to tell you that in my day there wasn't so much of this about, I used Michael Frewin's old teach yourself, and that was really enough grammar to go on and read War and Peace. Then at Cambridge this guy's http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article6 053911.ece lectures, and his wife's, were enough to fill in any blanks. The grammar is more finite than it appears at first glance, but once you get into verbal nests you can find a lot of nuances, and some people take a lot of time to get used to unusual stress patterns in conjugations, partitive genitives being different to non-partitive, and things like that. And dealing even with the subtle interlinking of aspect and positive and negative uses of the imperative, knowing when to use the instrumental with verbs, when -sya is sebya, when to use short adjectives and the nuances they carry, these are all things you'll want to know by the time you're even half way through the degree in order to get everything from the literature you'll be reading. If you find Wade doesn't take you to the limit, then I know a free resource here http://www.slovari.ru/default.aspx?s=0&p=2572 where you can download those three files. You'll have to import the fonts in the of the three files to get the right symbols for the docs, and then I suggest you might put the docs altogether so that you can make a big pdf to print it off easier or put it in your e-reader. I don't think there is anything either more detailed or authoritative that that work. Just about anyone who is entitled to drink a coffee in the staff common room at the Institute of Russian Language of the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union is in there. I think I even saw someone in there who owes me money, but knowing my luck they'll be dead already. It was made 30 years ago, so not much kaif and tyolki in it, but other books will give you that. If you do stick a pdf of it together for your own use, I'd gladly receive a copy too, by the way, I can't remember which of my four cellars I left my ancient paper copy in, and I doubt I'll ever get the time to look. If your lecturers see you reading that they'll see one serious student. Reading about the grammar of a language from the top acknowledged grammarians in that language is what separates the wheat from the chaff. HTH. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5822 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 48 of 64 20 December 2010 at 12:24am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
So you automatically assume that they're protesting out of ignorance of the proposed changes, rather than disagreeing with them? The government can spin it all they want, but this does make education more expensive. The question is whether it's a "necessary evil" or not. I don't think it is. But as I said, the closure of the technical colleges painted the universities into a corner, and no-one's willing to fix the underlying problem of universities as a one-size-fits-all strategy. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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