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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4096 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 25 of 43 19 June 2015 at 8:33am | IP Logged |
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Non mi dà niente di sorpresa che abbia dell'origine Italiane, l'Argentina ha avuto una
forte ondata d'immigrazione dal Secolo XIX, più ancora quase tutti gli mi amici argentini hanno almeno 25% dell'origine Italiane, è dire, almeno un nonno o una nonna cui ascendenza è d'Italia. Nei quarteri di Buenos Aires dove vivono alcuni di loro ci sono abbastanzi istituti Italiani come gli di Dante Aligheri. Del stesso modo imparo lo spagnolo e l'italiano perchè i paesi nei cui si parlano queste due lengue m'interessano come nessun altro. Però in Argentina imparare l'olandese sembra essere qualcosa un po raro, encora è buono impararlo. Edited by 1e4e6 on 19 June 2015 at 8:39am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5277 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch | Message 26 of 43 21 June 2015 at 12:32am | IP Logged |
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E vero, e un po strano, ma come molte cose strane, non fa male. Questi giorni sono un po enfrascado scrivendo nel mio blog col(l)oquial. Sto scrivendo un post sulla ortografia e la pronuncia olandesa. Il tempo dira se torna bene. Ik vind dat scrivere su un topico che non conosco piu bene mi aiuta a approfondire nel quello topico.
(Tomorrow, de wereld) Edited by getreallanguage on 21 June 2015 at 12:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5277 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch | Message 27 of 43 28 June 2015 at 6:37pm | IP Logged |
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Stamattina ho fatto un'immagine "meme" in olandese: cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/491933.jpg. Penso che questo sara un giorno produttivo!
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6403 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 28 of 43 28 June 2015 at 10:00pm | IP Logged |
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LOL!
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| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5277 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch | Message 29 of 43 01 July 2015 at 12:02am | IP Logged |
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In olandese per dire "conoscere qualcuno" si dice "kennen", per esempio "Ik ken Aafje", "Ken je Aafje?". Questo mi ricorda il uso del verbo "ken" collo stesso significato in lingua scozzese (scots) ed in inglese scozzese.
Regarding the meme on the above post, somebody on facebook said it ought to read "ik ben je vader". Ik heb twee vragen regarding that. I understand you have two versions of "singular your" - je and jouw. But I'm not sure I understand the difference between them. Are they like the difference between the subject pronouns je and jij, where the second is used for emphasis only, and carries sentence stress in the spoken language? If that is the case, then the correction makes sense - in the original, Vader says "_I_ am your father", with "I" carrying the biggest sentence stress and "father" the second biggest, and with "your" basically unstressed. If that's not the difference, and it's just a matter of style, then I don't get the correction, because in that case both "je" and "jouw" would be equally correct. The second question is why it ought to read "Luke, ik ben" instead of "Luke, ben ik". I thought the main verb pretty much always had to be the second element of the sentence. Thoughts? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4327 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 30 of 43 01 July 2015 at 12:10am | IP Logged |
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Not of the sentence, but of the clause. The clause only begins after the comma. It's
like "Luke!! I'm your father!". Using a comma instead of the exclamation mark doesn't change the order. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4096 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 31 of 43 01 July 2015 at 12:27am | IP Logged |
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A una frase que empiece con un adverbio se le obliga a que se invierta el orden de la
misma, una locución que se llama "V2"; Ik kom thuis vandaag. pero Vandaag kom ik thuis De la igual manera, Ze zijn misschien net gekomen. con el adverbio al principio: Misschien zijn ze net gekomen. Otra opción para invertir el orden es para darle énfasis con la(s) palabra(s) al principio: Hij is niet groot. pero, con en sentido de que, «¿Alto? Ni hablar, tío, que no lo es en absoluto»: Groot is hij niet. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5277 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch | Message 32 of 43 01 July 2015 at 2:22am | IP Logged |
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Ok, that makes sense. What about the je/jouw thing?
Also, what if I want to put extra emphasis on "ik" in the original sentence? Is stress/tone the only way in that case or can I do it through word order? Edited by getreallanguage on 01 July 2015 at 2:40am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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