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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6493 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 65 of 69 19 October 2012 at 1:09pm | IP Logged |
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I found a test for French here, based on 43.000 words (no compounds). However it claims that I know 79% of those (34550) which is substantially more than my own surveys - so the results should probably be treated with a certain amount of caution. At least I didn't fall into its inbuilt traps (non-existing words). There are also versions for children, but they suffer from a grave conceptual error: I did the test for 5 years olds and (of course) knew all the words. It then told me that I know 5 % of their word base. Frankly they can only tell that I know at least 5 % of the words in their stockpile, and even then they should at least have had the decency of telling me how many percent of native French 5 year olds I could expect to beat in a wordgame, as one of the English tests does.. Edited by Iversen on 19 October 2012 at 1:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4497 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 66 of 69 19 October 2012 at 1:29pm | IP Logged |
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I got to 30,500 which is probably quite accurate.
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| Majka Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic kofoholici.wordpress Joined 4447 days ago 307 posts - 755 votes Speaks: Czech*, German, English Studies: French Studies: Russian | Message 67 of 69 19 October 2012 at 1:34pm | IP Logged |
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The French test for adults is probably unsuitable for learners under at least B2/C1 level. All those words used internationally - science, law, internet are usually known, but there is not enough of the normal/everyday french vocabulary.
I got 21.869 words, 47% of all the words and looking back, the number could be higher in theory. I am nowhere near this number, and looking at "600 mots les plus courants de la langue française" I am still missing some of them in my vocabulary. For learners, the test "entre 10 et 15 ans" is probably better - I am getting about 7000-8000 words, which is still probably too high for me even thinking about passive vocabulary only, but the words in the test are more current. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6493 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 68 of 69 21 October 2012 at 1:29am | IP Logged |
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On the contrary - you should take the full test for adults (even if you are a child), otherwise you will be presented with fewer words and only credited with words within this smaller sample. Edited by Iversen on 21 October 2012 at 1:29am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| rolf Senior Member United Kingdom improvingmydutch.blo Joined 5797 days ago 107 posts - 134 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch | Message 69 of 69 26 October 2012 at 9:09pm | IP Logged |
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This is a flawed test, in my opinion.
There are a number of words that I have learned through context and know the meaning of well but in a way that I cannot describe if asked. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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