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TAC 2012: Team 龍 / Луу (East Asian Lang.) | ||
Tags: Mongolian | Vietnamese | Thai | Cantonese | Korean | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | Mandarin | Japanese | ||
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| petrklic Triglot Pro Member Czech Republic Joined 5087 days ago 95 posts - 109 votes  Speaks: Czech*, English, Russian Studies: Vietnamese Personal Language Map | Message 65 of 75 24 February 2012 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Welcome on board both of you! Please post links to your respective language logs, I'll be happy to add you to the front page.
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| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 66 of 75 25 February 2012 at 9:46am | IP Logged | ||
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Here it is, my Korean & Classical Chinese log, the topic ID is 31402 as I can't post links yet.
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 67 of 75 04 March 2012 at 3:00am | IP Logged | ||
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*cue start of Public Service Announcement*
I recently stumbled upon a big collection of resources (videos, transcripts, learning plans) from Five Colleges (Amherst College, Hampshire College, Mount Holyoke College, Smith College, and the University of Massachusetts Amherst) that was just too good to keep in relative anonymity in my log or the "Links and Resources" sub-forum. I think that the links could be handy for any of you want some practice with L-R or to see and hear the language as used in basic situations (certainly more focused than looking on YouTube) For your purposes, here are the links to the material in Indonesian, Japanese, Korean and Thai *cue end of Public Service Announcement* 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 68 of 75 14 March 2012 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Not much happening on the team log, and several people from the team I haven't seen any sign of, I believe.
Anyway, I just wanted to say there's only 1 month left from today until the TOPIK exam. That means one month to try to learn all the missing bits! Other people taking it? At which level? Do you feel ready? If not, how do you plan to spend the last month? Or is it really just a formality and you're already focused on what comes after? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 69 of 75 14 March 2012 at 10:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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I haven't really thought too much about taking the TOPIK test myself, but it is something I may consider at some point just to quantify my level somehow other than simply judging my own abilities. I'd have to check first and see if it is offered anywhere around here though.
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4869 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 70 of 75 15 March 2012 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Great idea to dig up the team thread!
Looks like pretty much everyone apart from the Korean-learners has gone MIA... When I prepared for TOPIK beginner, I took around 5 practice exams and revised the grammar I knew (I think I only knew 3/4 of the forms mentioned in the excel preparation file). The next TOPIK I'm taking will be in October and I'm not yet sure how my preparation for that will look like. I'll probably write a lot of essays, revise grammar and take practice tests. Although I'm making progress, I'm noticing more and more that my goal of passing level 4 is more of a utopian dream... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 71 of 75 17 June 2012 at 7:05pm | IP Logged | ||
Cross post from my language log:
So...we are about halfway through the year now, thus it is time to see where I am on my goals. QUANTIFIABLE GOALS Korean vocabulary: My revised goal (since the goal above was too hard to quantify) was 39 cards (mostly vocabulary, but occasionally grammar points) per week. Since Dec 25 (the first day of the week where I started doing the TAC counts), I've added 965 cards to my 한국어 deck in Anki. I've been at this for 25 weeks now (so I'm actually 1 week shy of the real halfway point). That works out to an average of 38.6 cards per week (0.4 cards/week shy of the target). Hanja: My finalized goal for this was 7/week (which at 1/day is easier to target than the 7.23/week that my "reach 600 total characters" goal would have indicated). Since Dec 25, I've added 190 characters to my SRS. Thus my resulting average rate has been 7.6 characters/week. This is probably only as high as it is due to my recent interest in Japanese bumping my card rate for a few weeks there, but despite that I'm surprised that I was not only above the 7/week target, but even above the original 7.23/week target. UNQUANTIFIABLE GOALS (Technically I could have set quantifiable goals for these 4 categories, but I didn't, thus they are "unquantifiable".) Speaking: Sadly, I've done little to nothing on this goal despite having increased opportunities. There is a new Korean restaurant nearby that I've been to 4 times now and have only spoken one word of Korean there the entire time. {sigh} Reading: I've made decent progress on reading, but I still need to read a lot more. Specifically my visits to Twitter have dropped off dramatically over the past several months. Writing: I've done some writing (blog posts, Twitter posts, etc.) during these six months, but not even close to what I should have done. Like speaking, I need to focus much more on this area since my active production is still lacking notably compared to my passive skills. Listening: While I've not done a huge amount of practice specifically targeting listening skills, they still shot up dramatically near the beginning of the year. I think a big portion of this could have been from my song memorization work. I still need to do some more focused work in this area, but am still quite happy with the progress I've noticed already. SUMMARY I'm very happy with my results for the quantifiable goals, but I've done far less for the more vague ones. This could partly be due to not having specific enough goals in those categories or due to the fact that some of them require a bit more motivation to do (especially the active ones). I've also added Japanese to my studies and reactivated Spanish (both within the last month or so). However as I stated before, I have no intention of letting either of them keep me from reaching my Korean TAC goals. Edited by Warp3 on 17 June 2012 at 7:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4869 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 72 of 75 01 July 2012 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm also cross-posting my half-year review here:
Half-Year Review: Time for Some Statistics and Stuff. Vocabulary: I have learned 986 vocabulary items with Anki, 1/3 of them with my wonderful audio sentence cards. This falls short of the planned 10 words per day (I should be at 1800 now), but as I won't be able to sit TOPIK in October this is inconsequential. Besides, combined with new words from books, movies and conversations the real number may easily be a couple of hundred words higher. Lessons: I did 2 lessons from the KLEAR Beginning 2 book, but it was a little too easy. I plan to use the books again later for an 'active phase'. Passively I rarely need grammar study now. I also studied 9 lessons of Korean Language Adventure and 9 G.L.O.S.S. lessons (4 of them very thoroughly), which were very useful for reading/listening comprehension and vocabulary acquisition. This makes roughly 1 lesson per week, more than I had planned originally, although I used different (and partly smaller) lessons. Books: I've read a total of 2 and 1/4 books aimed at children between - I would guess - 7-12 years of age. I also read several poems for children and blog entries. My reading speed and comprehension have improved A LOT and I have a much better grasp of sentence structure, (compound) verbs and common words. I'm not at a point where I happily google things in Korean, but I can if I want to (not for very specific information, of course). Tentatively taking up books for adults (or young adults) by the end of the year seems achievable. For children's books I have almost reached my goal of relative reading fluency. Lang-8 Entries: I have written 24 entries on lang-8, so I actually did double of what I had originally planned (2 per month). It's good I did, because my output massively lags behind input (which is okay at this stage, but the discrepancy shouldn't get too big). I'm now fairly comfortable with structures I regularly need to use and writing has also benefitted my speaking skills a tiny bit. Speaking: I have met with the Koreans more or less regularly. I only missed a few weeks due to time constraints. Speaking has been and is continuing to be a struggle and it's difficult to get in much practice when German proves easier and the topics we want to talk about are often complex. But I just take that as a sign that I need a lot more relevant vocabulary and practice, practice, practice to reliably be able to produce those foreign grammatical structures. Plans: July and half of August look pretty bleak for Korean because I need to spend a lot of time on my thesis and afterwards on exam preparations. I'm just happy if I can slowly add some more audio sentences to Anki and keep reading a couple of pages per week. As soon as I have the needed brain space (not sure when that will be, to be honest) I want to send myself to Korean essay bootcamp, followed by conversation bootcamp - the goal is to talk 1 hour of Korean, 5 days a week for a month or so. I'll probably have to mobilize all my Korean friends and then some to be able to do that, but I'm optimistic. Finding a tandem and several people to Skype with should be possible. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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