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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 6956 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes  20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 377 of 758 24 August 2012 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | ||
Even after filtering out the rather personal attacks and bias in parts of this article, George Hewitt's wife's being Abkhazian likely has something to do with his sentiment toward Georgia.
I have no automatic problem with a scholar having ethnic/political biases (e.g. I'm not surprised by Russian scholars being apologists for Soviet Russian conduct during the Cold War any more than I am by policy analysts for a Republican think-tank who rip public healthcare out of hand), but letting those biases spill into something that's meant to be far removed from politics such as a book describing a language's grammar is unprofessional and insulting to the intelligence of the readers/students in my view. I'd be just as annoyed if my textbooks for "Croatian" were laced with example sentences and dialogues that always portrayed the Croatian protagonists as pathological Serbophobes who listen only to Thompson even if what they use in the course were grammatical and with suitable lexicon. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4966 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 378 of 758 24 August 2012 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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I got the Abkhaz tutor. Another flaw of Hewitt's, his resources never come with audio. I'm sure he could have his wife or a relative record some sentences ;)
There was apsni.com with plenty of audio but it's closed =( Any idea where to recover this audio? Archive.org ? Couldn't agree more with you, Chung, but at least when I get a book from soviet USSR (like one for Georgian, a nice one didactically, by the way), I know what to expect, the same as of when I get a book from the FSI or DLI. In the case of Hewitt, though, it's politics poisoning science. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| shawns Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5094 days ago 20 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Georgian | Message 379 of 758 25 August 2012 at 9:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Just a note about the gap between kiziria's beginner's book and the continuing course. About a year ago I
had an email exchange with Kiziria, mainly to express how much I liked her books. She indicated that she was working on another book on Georgian verbs. I am not sure if I remember correctly, but I believe she indicated that it would be pitched at a more intermediate level. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4966 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 380 of 758 25 August 2012 at 5:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah I think you told me that, shawns, or maybe someone else did. Hope this book also has some dialogues, because if it's only about verbs then it's just another grammar and it won't actually fill that gap in terms of vocabulary and language usage.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4966 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 381 of 758 27 August 2012 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just met a funny adverb, პირიქით (on the contrary).
მე, პირიქით, ძალიან მოწონს. It sounds like 'parakeet' =D (even more so like its Portuguese form, 'periquito'). Almost done with Lesson 16 from Hewitt's. New month, new books, I hope! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| onkel_xiaoma Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4284 days ago 38 posts - 44 votes Speaks: German*, Mandarin Studies: Tatar, Turkish | Message 382 of 758 28 August 2012 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hello Expugnator,
since You also have the Kiziria, can You tell me how far it got You? For a language like Georgian the book looks awfully thin :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4966 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 383 of 758 28 August 2012 at 6:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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It looks and it is thin. Only 13 lessons, not much is developped. You're left abandoned when it's finished, it doesn't even prepare you for using Aronson's book properly. It had to be at least twice its size to bring you close to an intermediate level. The way it is now, it doesn't even bring you to A2. I do hope that when Kiziria decides to provide a book on verbs, she makes it more than a grammar excerpt; I hope she adds up new living language situations as well.
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| onkel_xiaoma Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4284 days ago 38 posts - 44 votes Speaks: German*, Mandarin Studies: Tatar, Turkish | Message 384 of 758 28 August 2012 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank You for Your assessment, I think I will use it as some kind of starting point though.. The "Lehrbuch der georgischen Sprache" looks a bit difficult for a bloody beginner like me..
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