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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4500 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 89 of 251 12 February 2013 at 7:12pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A clear and detailed explication of exactly what I'd been thinking! I've been wondering to what extent these
principles can be applied to more distant languages; my experience thus far has been with applying these principles to Germanic and Romance languages that are similar in vocabulary and structure to my existing store of language knowledge (which also means that this process seems to be speeding up almost exponentially as I gather more and more such knowledge--there are only so many Germanic and Romance word stems floating around there waiting to be learned). BTW: "80 episodes of a TV show is a few weeks on the playground for a kid." I think you meant "a few weeks on the couch!" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5344 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 90 of 251 12 February 2013 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
Going by both the usual FSI numbers and by my own limited experience with Assimil's L'Égyptien hiéroglyphique and a glance at L'Espagnol, I'd say it probably the same process, but that everything takes 3 to 4 times as long without any cognates or roughly analogous grammar. It's like an English speaker buys French at a 75% discount, or more specifically, as if that 75% discount is held in escrow and slowly doled out to you as you're working.
Nah, I was just unclear. :-) Kids mostly seem to learn from other kids, especially once they hit school age or have a sibling. 80 episodes of TV is about 60 hours, or 5 hours per day for 12 days spent watching and interacting with other kids on the playground. It's chump change, basically, in terms of childhood language acquisition. Yet it's enough to gain a CEFR level or so in listening comprehension, depending on where you are in the process. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 91 of 251 12 February 2013 at 10:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4500 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 92 of 251 07 March 2013 at 5:01am | IP Logged | |||||
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SUPER CHALLENGE UPDATE - Added Italian audio entries 27-28 and French audio entries 43-46
Hey, I'm still alive! I guess this is where I say "life got in the way." I'm still moving through my reading and listening, at least, though not as fast as before, and my Russian for the 6WC got shunted aside entirely. Not a huge deal about the Russian, as that was really just meant to be an experiment, and I can pick it up again later if I want. When there are so many languages that I can at least stumble through books in now and get comprehensible input (German, French, Yiddish, Dutch, Italian, and to a lesser extent Hebrew and some other Germanic and Romance languages), it's become REALLY hard to get good hours in studying one where I can't (Russian). I think emk said something similar--I'm really starting to love French documentaries. Not that the French do them best or anything, just that they are interesting, easy to follow, and on TV5MONDE they sometimes have (accurate!) captions. I watched a two hour documentary on French cathedrals recently, and it was riveting. It had math, physics, art, history, computer analysis, and I could follow almost everything (thanks mostly, though not entirely, to the captions). Projects in progress now include that I'm moving forward through Song of Ice and Fire in German again, and making significant progress in the same in Italian. My French reading has been a bit neglected, as has my Assimil study--practically none for two weeks. Given how that turned out with French before, I'm not too worried, but I need to pay attention. I also am reading the special edition of Spektrum (German science magazine) dedicated to LHC, Higgs, and the like. The article I've been reading most recently is about the discovery and analysis of the Quark-Gluon Plasma. When I walked in on my wife watching "The Avengers" (ed.: Marvel Comics edition) and someone said they needed "Irridium, which makes antiprotons," I just couldn't suspend disbelief. Now if they'd said it makes antiELECTRONS, maybe... BOOKS (Italian): 3. ... FILMS, ETC. (Italian): 27. Serie A: Roma - Juventus 28. Serie A: Milan - Parma BOOKS (French): 18. ... FILMS, ETC. (French): 43. Phineas & Ferb Movie 44. RFI (90 min) 45. Game of Thrones Season 2, ep. 6 (55 minutes) 46. TV5MONDE (130 minutes - Les Cathédrales Dévoilés, etc.) BOOKS (Dutch): 28. ... FILMS, ETC. (Dutch): 32. ... I am not entered in any Super Challenge for German, but I also am still reporting for my log: BOOKS (German): 12. ... FILMS, ETC. (German): 54. ... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 93 of 251 07 March 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Wow these are from so long ago that I don't even remember whether I watched Milan-Parma.
Don't you watch the Champions League? atdhe pretty much always has streams in German ;) sorry if this sounded discouraging!!! Yay for an update!!! Edited by Serpent on 07 March 2013 at 8:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4500 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 94 of 251 07 March 2013 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, if I can't record it and watch it a little bit at a time whenever I have a minute, I don't watch it. I tried getting through Milan-Inter from 2 weeks ago or so and finally gave up (only made it through one half). I do most of my football viewing late at night on Tuesdays and Wednesdays (which, ironically, is ALMOST right for the recent CL matches). In other news, I finally got set up to start recording Ligue 1 again. Looking forward to the next PSG match. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4500 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 95 of 251 07 March 2013 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And yes, I know PSG are in CL, too (for now). I do watch the news on TV5MONDE.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 96 of 251 08 March 2013 at 12:00am | IP Logged | |||||
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Apart from the final, CL is always played on Tuesdays and Wednesdays :)
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