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| Betjeman Groupie Germany Joined 5953 days ago 85 posts - 204 votes  Speaks: German* | Message 41 of 94 23 January 2013 at 9:47am | IP Logged | ||
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The Swedish language has got quite a bit of bashing in this thread, so it may be justified to add that
Swedish is an extremely beautiful language that would be worth knowing for its musical merits alone. Apart from that, it has a very efficient grammar - simple but not oversimplified. Sometimes, to me as a German, Swedish sounds like German as it should be spoken: softer, friendlier (I know that this a fairly naive notion, and yet I can't help it). Anyone who belittles Swedish, native speaker or not, needs to think again. Bellman, Strindberg and Lagerloef saw no reason to look down on their mother tongue. If they didn't, why should we? In a way, I'm looking forward to the day when English will have lost its dominance over other languages (it happened to Latin, it might happen again). The English language will be better off, and millions of ESL- speakers will have ample opportunity to find out that there is a lot more to learn about their first language than they thought possible. As it stands these days, the more people that make do with 4000 words of vocabulary in their native language, the more will feel perfectly fluent with 4000 words of English. Which, of course, is an erroneous assumption. Edited by Betjeman on 24 January 2013 at 4:15pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| nicozerpa Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 4136 days ago 182 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Portuguese, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 42 of 94 26 January 2013 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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That is a very interesting topic! Although I admit I would like to be a native speaker of English, I am very happy for having Spanish as my mother tongue. A lot of cultures use this language, and it makes Spanish a diverse and multifacetic language. Also, the diversity of Spanish does not prevent us from understand each other, no matter which variety of this language you speak.
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| anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6170 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian | Message 43 of 94 17 June 2013 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think it's a "wigger" phenomenom here in Sweden. Young people spend hours on end watching american tv-
series etc, and they think it's cool and try to imitate it. Many slightly older people, like 40+, in my experience aren't really that great at English, or atleast have a heavy accent and use a lot of "svengelska". I totally get the feeling though, as I get the same one when I embark upon new languages. For example Dutch when I first heard it sounded like they took German and made up some silly words and dialect to go with it. In the same way, Italian to me sounded like a "made-up" mix of other Romance languages, with pompous, funny-sounding pronounciation. But as I get used to the languages I start appreciating the melody more. I agree on the loanwords issue, when I speak German or Spanish I really don't want to be using many English loanwords at all, makes it feel like a pidgin or something. But when I speak my native language with friends I unfortunately (?) mix in a lot of English. But I guess that if I spoke to somebody wanting to learn the language I would make an effort to use swedish words only. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4669 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 44 of 94 17 June 2013 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think most of us are just bored by our mother tongues. I guess it can be one of the reasons why we've decided to learn another languages.
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| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4063 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 45 of 94 17 June 2013 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | ||
I am actually endlessly fascinated by my native language. I read about it a lot and I love making up different ways to say different things in it and I'll explain the phenomena in it to anyone crazy enough to listen until they pass out of boredom. The more I learn about other languages the more aware I am of my own. There are of course those people who are very negative like omg finnish is so silly and harsh and stale, but those are few and far between luckily, as far as I know. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4432 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 46 of 94 17 June 2013 at 4:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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You also get people who glorify their native tongue and delight in telling you how difficult it is to learn. In some cases it's almost like hey look at me, I am a fluent speaker of the world's hardest language.
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| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4063 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 47 of 94 17 June 2013 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't know if that's a slash towards me haha but I don't think Finnish is harder than other languages really. The vocabulary is strange for speakers of IE languages, and that's the biggest issue I can come up with. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4669 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 48 of 94 17 June 2013 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | ||
Smells like mild nationalism. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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