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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4627 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 17 of 27 06 August 2013 at 4:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm just trying to imagine how a 36 hour cycle would work in practice (and assuming
working on something intensively like a dissertation): e.g. start off cycle with: Bed at midnight. (0 hours) Up at 06:00 (6 hours) Work for 12 hours till 18:00 (with breaks for breakfast and lunch).(18 hours) evening meal also taken inside the above 12 hour period). Work for 12 hours till 06:00. (30 hours). Sleep for 2 hours till 08:00 (32 hours) Breakfast then work for 4 hours till 12:00 (36 hours). End of 1st cycle. Within that 36 hour cycle, there were 12+12+4=28 working hours and 6+2=8 sleeping hours. (that could easily be cut down to 7 sleeping hours if that was enough, and one more working hour). As we would expect, the cycle will alternately switch between starting at midnight and starting at midday, and when starting at midnight, meal breaks can be accommodated at something like "normal" times. Anyway, it need not need any less sleep overall, but the advantage seems to be in allowing for two uninterrupted long working chunks of 12 hours, which the 24 hour day obviously doesn't, and I assume these long chunks will suit some people, e.g. Iversen. Meal breaks haven't been properly accounted for (assumed to be only as long as needed) and no allowance for rest (other than sleep), recreation, or exercise. But the assumption here was for a period of necessarily intensive work. Interesting. I could see that it might work for me personally in the short term. I don't know about it as a permanent thing though. (feel free to double-check my arithmetic anyone! :-) ). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Kugel Senior Member United States Joined 6337 days ago 497 posts - 555 votes Speaks: English* | Message 18 of 27 07 August 2013 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Isn't one of the purposes of AIT to put stress on the student, which is usually in the form of sleep deprivation? At any rate, med school students, guys in high finance, etc... all restrict their sleep because it's the rules of the game. It's just how life is if you want to compete.
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| Sterogyl Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4166 days ago 152 posts - 263 votes Studies: German*, French, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, Norwegian | Message 19 of 27 07 August 2013 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think it's rather the result of poor time management. Restricting one's sleep is a bad idea for anyone who wants to perform well. Period. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6502 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 20 of 27 08 August 2013 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Extreme sleep deprivation has been used as torture and to brainwash people, but the kind of learning you can get under those circumstances has little to do with language learning or anything else that demands a clear mind.
On the other hand it is also both a waste of time and likely to make you sleepy if you stay in bed and continue to sleep even though you already have covered your basic needs ... although you may experience more vivid dreams because your brain somehow does know that you should have been awake long ago. So maybe it is a choice between lucid dreaming and becoming a polyglot. Edited by Iversen on 08 August 2013 at 12:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sterogyl Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4166 days ago 152 posts - 263 votes Studies: German*, French, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, Norwegian | Message 21 of 27 08 August 2013 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I cannot relate to this. When I sleep, it's because I need to sleep. My body needs to rest. Have I slept enough, I am fully awake and feel no need to sleep anymore. Maybe it's just me, but I just couldn't continue to sleep just because I want to or I "feel like sleeping". It would be against my nature. I don't think there's a thing like "too much sleep". Edited by Sterogyl on 08 August 2013 at 8:11pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4627 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 22 of 27 08 August 2013 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think there is actually. I used to be able to "oversleep". Taken to extremes it could cause severe headaches (and was definitely not a good thing). I do it much less now, but still tend to waken up slowly, so there is for me a grey area between sleep and wakefulness, in contrast to my wife, who wakes up as though a switch had been thrown and is then perfectly wide awake. So people do seem to differ in this respect. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 4929 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 23 of 27 08 August 2013 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think if you happen to live in a place with four seasons, two of which can be extreme, that also makes a difference. In the winter, when it's very cold outside and we have usable sunlight from 9am to 4pm, it's a lot easier to stay in bed. In the summer, on the other hand, I'm up very early during the month or so of sunlight beginning at 5am until 8:30-9pm, and as the sun starts to rise later and later in the fall, I get up a little later. R. == 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4708 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 24 of 27 11 August 2013 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I heard about an interesting study 10-12 years ago about isolation. US soldiers were placed in isolation chambers without any form of entertainment or interaction with another person. For up to the first week the subjects slept half the day or more. After that point they were unable to sleep more than 8-8.5 hours a day. The conclusion was that once they had made up their sleep deficit, they were unable to sleep more than their body needed. I heard the study reported on NPR radio (probably All Things Considered), so I don't have a source, but I may try to find a link when I have more time. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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