Register  Login  Active Topics  Maps  

[TAC 2014] Learning Russian - Team Катюша

 Language Learning Forum : Language Learning Log Post Reply
88 messages over 11 pages: << Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... 10 11
Cristianoo
Triglot
Senior Member
Brazil
https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 3911 days ago

175 posts - 289 votes 
Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English
Studies: Russian

 
 Message 81 of 88
10 June 2014 at 2:58am | IP Logged 
Я изучал Assimil 23 сегодня

Я пересмотрел Pimsleur 1-11. Я на Pimsleur 22

я не знаю почему несколько слова заканчивают с 'ом' как в:

Я люблю заниматься спортом

вы можете помочь мне? Большое спасибо


1 person has voted this message useful



Via Diva
Diglot
Senior Member
Russian Federation
last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 4024 days ago

1109 posts - 1427 votes 
Speaks: Russian*, English
Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek

 
 Message 82 of 88
10 June 2014 at 3:26am | IP Logged 
Меняется падеж слова:
Спорт помогает поддерживать форму (nominative).
Я люблю заниматься спортом (instrumental).
2 persons have voted this message useful



chokofingrz
Pentaglot
Senior Member
England
Joined 4979 days ago

241 posts - 430 votes 
Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian
Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish

 
 Message 83 of 88
10 June 2014 at 4:09am | IP Logged 
Я тоже люблю заниматься спортом.

The key word is заниматься, to engage in, to practise, to occupy oneself. Any object it takes will always be in instrumental case. Here, sport takes the role of the instrument or method which describes the action of engaging in.

It's not totally obvious but I'm sure you will pick it up fast! Here are some more examples.

Other verbs that work the same way include интересоваться (to be interested in), and служить (to serve [as]).

There's another useful related word: занятый (busy). Я занят - I'm busy!
2 persons have voted this message useful



Cristianoo
Triglot
Senior Member
Brazil
https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 3911 days ago

175 posts - 289 votes 
Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English
Studies: Russian

 
 Message 84 of 88
10 June 2014 at 6:01am | IP Logged 
You guys are wonderful - really

Chokofingrz, Via Diva, do you know any resource that shows a verb x applied case ?

It seems I wont be able to use basic portuguese grammar notion with russian...

When I think: ok, thats a direct object, so I will use accusative - I'm wrong.

So if something like that ever exist, it would be extremely helpful for anyone learning
the language.


1 person has voted this message useful



chokofingrz
Pentaglot
Senior Member
England
Joined 4979 days ago

241 posts - 430 votes 
Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian
Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish

 
 Message 85 of 88
10 June 2014 at 3:49pm | IP Logged 
Cristianoo, you are perfectly correct to use accusative for the direct objects of transitive verbs!

This заниматься is a different thing because it's intransitive (indicated by the suffix ся). It will tell you in the dictionary that the instrumental case follows.

The syntax here is not as simple as the English phrase "I do sport".
Think more along the lines of "I am occupied. With what? With sport".

I don't explain it that well but this video gives a thorough overview of the common instrumental verbs (first 4 minutes are enough).

2 persons have voted this message useful



Cristianoo
Triglot
Senior Member
Brazil
https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name
Joined 3911 days ago

175 posts - 289 votes 
Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English
Studies: Russian

 
 Message 86 of 88
19 June 2014 at 10:17pm | IP Logged 
chokofingrz,

That was great. большое спасибо.

I will be studying only with my pimsleur audio files for the next 25 days because I'll be
travelling abroad. And probably I wont be logging in here, so I see you guys later.

прощание
1 person has voted this message useful



Josquin
Heptaglot
Senior Member
Germany
Joined 4634 days ago

2266 posts - 3992 votes 
Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish
Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian

 
 Message 87 of 88
07 September 2014 at 11:01pm | IP Logged 
Hey Cristianoo, what's your Russian doing? Are you still studying? Would be great to hear from you again soon.
1 person has voted this message useful



Solfrid Cristin
Heptaglot
Winner TAC 2011 & 2012
Senior Member
Norway
Joined 5124 days ago

4143 posts - 8864 votes 
Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian
Studies: Russian

 
 Message 88 of 88
08 September 2014 at 7:22am | IP Logged 
Yes, let us know what s up, Cristiano :-)


1 person has voted this message useful



This discussion contains 88 messages over 11 pages: << Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login. If you are not already registered you must first register


Post ReplyPost New Topic Printable version Printable version

You cannot post new topics in this forum - You cannot reply to topics in this forum - You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum - You cannot create polls in this forum - You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page was generated in 0.5625 seconds.


DHTML Menu By Milonic JavaScript
Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved
No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization.