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fabriciocarraro
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25 September 2013 at 3:59pm | IP Logged

I completely agree with leosmith about Penguin being by far the best Russian course available out there!
Its focus is not on pronunciation, indeed. You can improve that with Assimil or Pimsleur, or even Michel Thomas, that, unlike Penguin, are all audio based courses, but in terms of explaining the grammar in an easy and didactic way, no one beats Penguin.
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25 September 2013 at 8:25pm | IP Logged

Cristianoo wrote:

I'm not following Penguin's pronounciation rules. I'm studying it
with Pimsleur.

And how does Pimsleur teach pronunciation?

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25 September 2013 at 9:05pm | IP Logged

Mark, I've never used Pimsleur for Russian, but in general they have mostly audio-based lessons, so I guess you'll learn the pronunciation just by listening to a native speaking in Russian, not reading about it on a paperbook.
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25 September 2013 at 9:34pm | IP Logged

fabriciocarraro wrote:

I completely agree with leosmith about Penguin being by far the
best Russian course available out there!
Its focus is not on pronunciation, indeed. You can improve that with Assimil or Pimsleur,
or even Michel Thomas, that, unlike Penguin, are all audio based courses, but in terms of
explaining the grammar in an easy and didactic way, no one beats Penguin.

And after using all these courses you thought that ъ meant a very short pause and
couldn't explain what ь meant before a vowel. I'm not criticizing you, but all these
resources do not allow to understand what is what in Russian.
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25 September 2013 at 10:57pm | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

Not at all, I've never used Pimsleur and just dabbled with Assimil. Audio resources won't explain to you what softening or hardening is, of course, but you might learn it "by ear", just like a Russian native would learn as a child.
But I've never really used them, so I can't really tell for sure.

Edited by fabriciocarraro on 25 September 2013 at 10:57pm
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25 September 2013 at 11:02pm | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

fabriciocarraro wrote:

I completely agree with leosmith about Penguin
being by far the
best Russian course available out there!
Its focus is not on pronunciation, indeed. You can improve that with Assimil or
Pimsleur,
or even Michel Thomas, that, unlike Penguin, are all audio based courses, but in terms
of
explaining the grammar in an easy and didactic way, no one beats Penguin.

Why do you think no resources adequately explain Russian phonology?
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25 September 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged

I don't think so, tarvos. But I see what I see.
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26 September 2013 at 2:58am | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

Cristianoo wrote:

I'm not following Penguin's pronounciation rules. I'm
studying it
with Pimsleur.

And how does Pimsleur teach pronunciation?

like that:

я говорю по русский

сский, сский, русский, русский, по русский, рю, ворю, говорю, я говорю
я говорю по русский
say... I speak russian.... (wait a moment) я говорю по русский
say again...

I'm pretty sure one can learn something from that.

[Edit: Forgot the most important thing! below...]

Today's report

I was too lazy to go to the gym today and I had to work really hard, so I didn't take
any pimsleur lessons today.

Penguin: I did a review of past lessons. It consumed my today's entire freetime.

Edited by Cristianoo on 26 September 2013 at 3:06am

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