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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4677 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 41 of 63 26 December 2013 at 7:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think there should be a whole subset of "Hollywood Accents" that you hear in the movies that you never hear in real life. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 42 of 63 26 December 2013 at 8:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
Speaking of "Hollywood Accents" it may be good for English learners to be aware of the Mid-Atlantic/Transatlantic Accent that you'll hear in older American movies and speeches, which was used by the upper classes and stage/film actors until it fell out of use (though you'll hear it if you watch the show Frasier). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5014 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 43 of 63 26 December 2013 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
Priceless :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| DaisyMaisy Senior Member United States Joined 5168 days ago 115 posts - 178 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish Studies: Swedish, Finnish | Message 44 of 63 28 December 2013 at 4:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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Very interesting thread with some excellent posts. One thought I had when reading about immigrant communities in Europe and the persistence of accents: the Black community isn't a relatively recent immigrant community but has been in America for as long as the European settlers have been (speaking in broad terms of course). The social and cultural distinctions were set from the beginning and enforced ruthlessly in most cases. So different dialects have endured, in many ways a part of a person's identity as some posters have mentioned.
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| amyhere Diglot Newbie Australia Joined 3998 days ago 10 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Finnish | Message 45 of 63 29 December 2013 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I find this really interesting as an Australian, as here the only major non-Standard Australian English accent is
the Australian Aboriginal accent (I'm not aware of the proper name for this, sorry!) which happens to also be used by the only group that has had a large presence here since racial segregation times apart from white Australians, which is because of policies around immigration which I won't go into here except that it made it difficult for any non-white people to immigrate. So most Asian, Pacific and African immigrants are either first or second generation immigrants. And the thing is, 90% of the time, second generation immigrants speak exactly the same as any other Australians. So what I'm basically saying is that I do agree with the findings here that official segregation policies in the past contribute to accent now, but other than that, race doesn't. Although I do find it interesting that America is still as racially segregated as has been said here, as I had thought that this had just been over-exaggerated by Hollywood. Here, Asians don't have more Asian friends than others etc. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jhaberstro Senior Member United States Joined 4181 days ago 112 posts - 154 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 46 of 63 29 December 2013 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
An interesting phenomenon that I've anecdotally noticed is that, in several upper middle class American high schools, Asian-american teenagers seem to socially segregate themselves. Much like the stereotypical social cliques of "jocks", "cheerleads", "nerds", there is also one of "Asians". I'm very hesitant to say this is segregation, but there is definitely an interesting cultural phenomenon going on here, as it does persist past high school into college (at least, among some of my friends). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4426 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 47 of 63 30 December 2013 at 4:58am | IP Logged | |||||
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This map shows just how segregated the US still is. Amazing.
Map of American Racial Segregation Edited by AlexTG on 30 December 2013 at 5:09am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3816 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 48 of 63 30 December 2013 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
Interesting, but it lists Latino as race which is extremely ignorant, I don't know why, but that misconception really irritates me. Not that I'm offended for being called non- white. I just find it very stupid, because it contradicts facts that should be obvious not to mention its a bit racist if you think about it, an European country colonizes a dark skinned continent and the modern population is dark skinned, but with European traces, what should be the obvious conclusion? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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