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Why is Italian considered beatiful?

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ScottScheule
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 Message 17 of 35
18 February 2014 at 9:44pm | IP Logged 
Fuenf_Katzen wrote:
I've always wondered if part of the association with Italian being seen as beautiful is because of the connection with opera. Maybe not; a lot of people don't like opera regardless of what language it's in! It does tend to be a good language to sing in, as far as projecting sound properly--though I have to admit I've never been able to sign Italian music convincingly; German and French were always easier to handle.


True, but a lot of people DID like opera a long time ago, and maybe the current view of Italian is inherited from then.

Regardless, is Italian really easier to sing in? Yes, the lack of consonant clusters make it easier to do certain things in Italian, but who says that's good singing? German produces a different kind of song, with its own aesthetic. When you sing German, you have to really enjoy the guttural sounds, the aspirated stops, make them loud and forceful. Now doing that would be terrible Italian singing--but it makes for fine German singing.
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 Message 18 of 35
18 February 2014 at 10:03pm | IP Logged 
I think it's just a cliché that people repeat, and most of them probably have had next to zero exposure to the language.

I don't think I would ever use the word 'beautiful' to describe a language I don't know anyway. Sure some languages are more 'melodic' than others, and some have less harsher sounds, but when you don't understand, it's still just... a bunch of sounds that have no meaning?

The first time I went to Italy, there was a guy on the plane sitting next to me speaking non-stop without taking a breath. After a while, it was just as irritating as it were Cantonese.
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 Message 19 of 35
18 February 2014 at 10:11pm | IP Logged 
It is certainly partly a cliché, but there is more to it than that. Some languages - perhaps with some lingusitic and geographical limitations - are repeatedly considered more beautiful. For instance, I still have to meet someone who considers Dutch beautiful. (I quite like Afrikaans though.)

Edited by Hungringo on 18 February 2014 at 10:49pm

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 Message 20 of 35
18 February 2014 at 10:34pm | IP Logged 
Well me for example :-) There were announcements in Dutch/Flemish when I took the Cologne-Paris express, and oh my, they were beautiful. Maybe to some extent it's due to a contrast with French, which I don't like, but when we were actually in Paris for about a week, I really just wanted to go to Amsterdam for a day and listen to this beautiful language.
The love is still there, though. It's like a softened version of German for me, maybe. And really we've had numerous threads about the most/least beautiful language and most languages got mentioned on both sides.
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 Message 21 of 35
18 February 2014 at 11:03pm | IP Logged 
One thing: the Flemish pronunciation and the Amsterdam pronunciation are HUGELY
different. Most people consider Flemish the "rustic, beautiful" pronunciation. In the
Netherlands consonants are often devoiced and pronounced more velar/uvular.

Fun fact: I had an ex-girlfriend who had studied Dutch at school (but in Belgium), and if
I wanted to speak Dutch to her, I had to modify my pronunciation to sound Flemish, or she
would not understand. If I spoke my native Dutch, it was incomprehensible to her.

Edited by tarvos on 18 February 2014 at 11:04pm

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 Message 22 of 35
19 February 2014 at 12:01am | IP Logged 
Hungringo wrote:
For instance, I still have to meet someone who considers Dutch beautiful.

*raises hand*
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 Message 23 of 35
19 February 2014 at 12:31am | IP Logged 
Personally, I like the rythm and entonation of this language. Also, its double consonants
make their words softer than their counterparts in other romance languages. Another possible
reason is that Italy is often considered the fashion capital of the world, and that affect
the public perception of Italian. Many luxury brands come from Italy: Armani, Versace,
Lamborghini, Ferrari... All that makes Italian language look more "stylish".

I'd like to add another reason. I have Italian ancestors, just like a lot of people in the
Atlantic coast of South America and the US. For that reason, I have a particular sense of
"belonging" with this language, which definitely makes it even more beautiful.
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 Message 24 of 35
19 February 2014 at 5:28am | IP Logged 
Two words: Sophia Loren.

If you need any more convincing, two more words: Gina Lollobrigida.



Joking aside, part of the reputation for Italian comes from the fact that some very famous beautiful people spoke/speak it.


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