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hjordis
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 Message 65 of 73
22 June 2014 at 7:15pm | IP Logged 
@Elenia- Well that would just make me want to irritatingly have some words with them!

...Nope, it feels all wrong. I'd definitely use irritably or irately(but not
irritatadly). Better yet, I'd say "have some irate words," at least in that particular
sentence.

Darklight1216 wrote:
Maybe it's been said already, but I don't like it when people
say things like "a orange"
or "a apple" or "a honest man."

We have the word "an" for a reason.

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.

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Jeffers
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 Message 66 of 73
23 June 2014 at 2:26am | IP Logged 
hjordis wrote:

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.


"An" before a vocalized "h" in some words is fairly common in England, although I haven't figured out if there are rules or regions associated with it. I've heard it with hotel, hospital and half.
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hjordis
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 Message 67 of 73
23 June 2014 at 3:56am | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
hjordis wrote:

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.


"An" before a vocalized "h" in some words is fairly common in England, although I haven't
figured out if there are rules or regions associated with it. I've heard it with hotel,
hospital and half.
Interesting! Either I've never heard it before or it doesn't
bother me as much as it does when I see it written (since it's not part of MY dialect and
I tend to read in my own voice).
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Darklight1216
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 Message 68 of 73
23 June 2014 at 6:04am | IP Logged 
hjordis wrote:

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.

Same here. I have to do a double take when I see that, and unfortunately it seems to be
happening more and more.

Actually, it could be that it's something that is making a come back because I know
that in the King James Version of the Bible, Genesis has a verse which states "I shall
make an help meet for him" and there is another verse which speaks of "an helmet."

Edited by Darklight1216 on 23 June 2014 at 6:08am
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dampingwire
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 Message 69 of 73
23 June 2014 at 4:18pm | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
"An" before a vocalized "h" in some words is fairly common in England,
although I haven't figured out if there are rules or regions associated with it. I've
heard it with hotel, hospital and half.


I've heard it with hotel and historic and perhaps a few others, but never hospital or
half (well, maybe "an 'alf pint" but I'm not sure that counts!).

As a network software developer I used to hear "a ACK" (rather than "an ACK") to clearly
distinguish it from "a NAK".

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 Message 70 of 73
25 June 2014 at 1:51pm | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
hjordis wrote:

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.


"An" before a vocalized "h" in some words is fairly common in England, although I haven't figured out if there are rules or regions associated with it. I've heard it with hotel, hospital and half.


Although you never see anyone refer to "an horse"
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luke
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 Message 71 of 73
25 June 2014 at 8:04pm | IP Logged 
beano wrote:
Jeffers wrote:
hjordis wrote:

Speaking of this, I know it's another dialect thing, but when somebody write something
like "an hotel." It's not a problem when spoken, since I can hear them drop the h, and
maybe it would be different if I didn't subvocalize when I read, but when written it's
a bit jarring. I've adjusted a little and just drop the h myself most of the time.


"An" before a vocalized "h" in some words is fairly common in England, although I haven't figured out if there
are rules or regions associated with it. I've heard it with hotel, hospital and half.


Although you never see anyone refer to "an horse"


I have heard someone once referred to as what sounded like, "an horse's ass", but i think they really meant a
bear's butt.
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eyðimörk
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 Message 72 of 73
25 June 2014 at 8:38pm | IP Logged 
I don't care much how other people speak, but I am slightly irked when native Swedes say interjuva (verb: interview) instead of intervjua. It's not like they would be caught dead saying they went to an interjuv (noun: interview).

There are also a handful of frequent idioms that you hear spoken incorrectly more often than you hear them spoken correctly. Dra alla över en kant instead of dra alla över en kam comes to mind.

My only other pet-peeve is in writing so I suppose that it doesn't count as vernacular: when adults consistently write dem (them) instead of de (they), or make a choice between de and dem seemingly at random. The vernacular is to blame, though, since both words have come to be pronounced the same.

Edited by eyðimörk on 25 June 2014 at 8:43pm


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