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| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6035 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 9 of 42 29 October 2007 at 4:08pm | IP Logged |
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I have been studying Uyghur for a little over a year (I have it listed as Uzbek on my profile because Uyghur is not there). There are quite a few texts, in actuality, but the main published ones are in Chinese. I have a couple copies of unpublished (probably never to be) in English, but I copied them from friends when I was in Xinjiang. If you still have questions, I can give you information.
I would rate myself as somewhere between intermediate and begining fluency in Uyghur at this point. I went to Kazakhstan this summer and managed to get by so so in Kazakh language by adjusting some of my pronunciation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| iieee Groupie United States dreaminginturkish.bl Joined 6386 days ago 78 posts - 80 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, German | Message 10 of 42 29 October 2007 at 8:54pm | IP Logged |
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PUBL.- A Grammar of Modern Uyghur, Frederick De Jong Posted by: Frederick De Jong A Grammar of Modern Uyghur by Frederick De Jong (Utrecht University, The Netherlands) Modern Uyghur is a Turkic language which is predominantly spoken in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China. It belongs to the Eastern or Chaghatay branch of the Turkic languages. Few texts exist which can be used for learning Modern Uyghur, which is one of the least researched Turkic languages. This grammar is the first English-based learning grammar for this language. It is partially Latin-based while is also uses categorizations rooted in the work of Chaghatay grammarians. It pays attention to dialect forms when these forms are on the way to become part of the standard written language. To facilitate its use, an index of the elements of grammar covered, and an English-Uyghur vocabulary are included at the end of this book. By mastering its contents and by carefully going through the numerous examples, the student should be able to read Uyghur publications with the aid of a dictionary. At the same time, this grammar can be used fruitfully as the basis for Uyghur courses at all levels. In conjunction with the study of Frederick De Jong et al., Uyghur: A Manual for Conversation (Utrecht: Houtsma 2005) and the accompanying audio-CD, basic conversational skills can be acquired. A Grammar of Modern Uyghur, Frederick De Jong, Utrecht 2007 (290 pages), ISBN 978-90-801040-8-2, is a Houtsma publication. See www.houtsmastichting.nl 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ElfoEscuro Diglot Senior Member United States cyworld.com/brahmapu Joined 6088 days ago 408 posts - 423 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 42 30 October 2007 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
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I studied Uyghur very briefly but stopped and instead started learning Uzbek.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6071 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 12 of 42 01 November 2007 at 4:37am | IP Logged |
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I flipped through a Russian-Uyghur dictionary, published in Soviet times. The Uyghur vaguely resembled Turkish but not as much as Azerbaijani does.
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| ElfoEscuro Diglot Senior Member United States cyworld.com/brahmapu Joined 6088 days ago 408 posts - 423 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 13 of 42 01 November 2007 at 8:04pm | IP Logged |
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That's because Turkish and Azeri are much closer in the Turkic family. Both are West Oghuz languages whereas Uyghur (and Uzbek) is a West Uygur Turkic language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6035 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 14 of 42 03 November 2007 at 11:13am | IP Logged |
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Here are some Uyghur resources. Of course there are several writing systems for uyghur depending on where it is spoken. An arabic based script, cyrillic, and about 3 or 4 ways to write it out in Latin script.
I recently saw a decent book writen on Uyghur morphology that was published in Turkey, but I have no clue how to get ahold of it. Here is one of the main uyghur websites (tor beti): http://biliwal.com/ Other interesting links (if I think of anything else, I will come back and add it in): www.meshrep.com/ http://www.rfa.org/uyghur/ (Radio Free Asia's Uyghur broadcast) http://www.uighurlanguage.com/ (the guy who runs this site does uyghur proficiency testing. Tughluk is a pleasant guy. http://www.anatilim.com/ http://wiki.yulghun.com/ (Apparently someone tried to make a Uyghur wikipedia--haven't looked at it yet) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UyghurLanguage http://www.ukij.org/oyghan/ (Uyghur software) For windows typing is pretty well designed now. It uses the Saudi Arabian input method. For OSX, there is still no right-to-left support for OpenType fonts. Programs that use their own font handling can work well (Mellel, Adobe), but other stuff is useless. http://www.uyghurdictionary.org/ a decent dictionary, none are that great online, or books for that matter. http://dict.yulghun.com/ This is the dictionary I use--it is the same as the electronic dictionary Irpan, as far as I can tell. In Xinjiang there are some hacked copies of Windows XP and office that are Uyghur versions. I wish I would have picked one up, but I didn't. Edited by kealist on 03 November 2007 at 12:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6035 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 15 of 42 30 November 2007 at 6:40pm | IP Logged |
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Is there anyway we can get Uyghur added to the list of languages on the site? I really would prefer not to have to label it Uzbek. I briefly looked around for a place to contact someone, but didn't see much.
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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 6943 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 16 of 42 30 November 2007 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
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kealist:
The Uyghur morphology book you saw was probably this one: http://www.pandora.com.tr/urun.asp?id=103837 It can still be ordered, evidently, from Pandora, but my impression is that copies are running low, as it no longer seems to be available from the Ankara bookstore from which I ordered it a couple of years ago, so I'd order it now if you're interested. Pandora is a reliable supplier with which I've had a lot of experience. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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