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| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes  Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 1 of 32 07 July 2007 at 1:08am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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How can I go about learning to speak in Latin?
There seems to be very little audio content for learning Latin. All the major self-learning programs like Pimsleur, Assimil, and others have only modern languages. I've purchased several different resources, and among them Orberg's Lingva Latina: Familia Romana, Sharpley's Teach Yourself Beginner's Latin, and John Traupman's Conversational Latin. I particularly like these because they have supplementary audio material. I also downloaded Nunc Loquamur, a beginner's Latin program (which is free) and the audio content on it is pretty decent. But I wonder if there are any other resources available. Since language exchange with a Latin speaker is not likely available to me, I really wonder what I should do to make up for that. Thoughts anyone? -Jason 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| reltuk Groupie United States Joined 6612 days ago 75 posts - 110 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 2 of 32 07 July 2007 at 2:58am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Assimil does have a Latin course, but it's only available with French or Italian as the base language. It's also only available on cassette tapes, not CDs. The French-based course (with audio) is currently unavailable on amazon.com and amazon.fr: http://amazon.com/gp/product/2700513436 http://amazon.fr/gp/product/2700513436 I bought my copy directly from http://www.assimil.com, which I have found processes orders quickly and ships to the US in a timely manner. It is normal a week or two before my package arrives. This is the only truly conversational Latin course I've ever seen, but I admit that I haven't looked terribly hard. There used to be a website, Schola Latina Universalis, that was dedicated to teaching the Latin language and Roman culture to people who wanted to learn on the internet; they had tutors available, guided courses which kicked off every 5 months or so, etc. It's server seems to be either experiencing temporary problems or permanently down, but they utilized "Latin sans peine" for the first couple levels of their Latin instruction. A google cache of the old page describing the course is here: http://72.14.253.104/search? q=cache:7dSsyibm-DIJ:avitus.alcuinus.net/schola_latina/ratio .php+Latin +assimil&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=us A couple other things I would say: 1) If you're interested in learning Latin, I strongly recommend the Textkit forums. Textkit is a website which provides a place for lovers of Latin and Ancient Greek to get communicate, run courses with people checking answers to exercises, etc. 2) Another possibly useful resource is the latinstudy email list, which has a clever and mostly low-overhead approach to the grammar/translation method without a teacher: people run courses where they assign assignments out of designated textbooks, lots of people turn in those assignments, and then everyone's answers are correlated and mailed out to the list, making it easy to check your answer against your peers (one step below being able to check it against a good answer key :-p). Information on that list is here: http://nxport.com/mailman/listinfo/latinstudy Admittedly both these resources are largely centered around the grammar/translation method and are mostly concerned with reading and writing classical Latin. I might suggest that spoken resources would be better available for Ecclesiastical Latin, since it is actually a relatively commonly used method of communication amongst people in the world today. Unfortunately, off the top of my head, I don't know of any communicative-focused Ecclesiastical Latin courses that are appropriate for adults. I do know of a couple that are targeted to a younger audience, mostly intended for elementary school aged kids in Catholic home-schooling programs; they include things like dialogs, fables and songs. I would think that many of the available communicative courses in Ecclesiastical Latin might be more commonly written in languages other than English; that might be changing as English continues to grow in global significance and exposure...all simply my speculation anyway. But yeah, this is definitely a good question! Especially given my belief that a communicative approach to the language is likely to be much more engaging and ultimately successful than a grammar/translation approach. One of the hardest and most tedious approaches that I've read about is the "Dowling Method". While incredibly painful, Dowling claims that you end up with an ability to casually read classical authors. It's based on Lingua Latina with tons of extra drilling on the side. More information is here: http://rci.rutgers.edu/~wcd/Latin.htm HTH, Best of luck, reltuk. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7017 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 3 of 32 07 July 2007 at 9:04am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Jason,
What level are you in Latin? Bolchazy Carducci publishers has a cd or book on conversational Latin. Amazon sells it too, but I think it is the previous edition. http://www.bolchazy.com/index.php?cat=latin&sub=10 Scroll down to Conversational Latin. I have posted this before, but on another thread about Latin resources. All types of resources are http://frcoulter.com/latin/links.html If you are intermediate or advanced. You can write a test and qualify to learn Latin in Italy. The second experience is conversational Latin. http://frcoulter.com/latin/index.html I hope this helps. Edited by alang on 07 July 2007 at 9:12am 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 4 of 32 07 July 2007 at 10:03am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I'm a beginner.
Thanks, though I've already mentioned that I purchased Trapman's book.
This looks to be a great site! Unfortunately, Fr. Foster Reginald has quite an American accent. :(
Wow, now that I'm aware of this, I may consider going to Italy in the future for that very purpose! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 5 of 32 07 July 2007 at 10:11am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Thank you for bringing this to my attention! However, is it possible to learn Latin through this, even though I can't speak a word of French? I haven't used Assimil before, but I read that Assimil maximizes on the target language. Is the text the only thing that is written in French? If I were to get a French speaker to translate the text for me into English, would that suffice?
I'm aware of textkit, but I do not want to focus on grammar drills, as I am generally opposed to them.
As a Roman Catholic, I prefer the Ecclesiastical pronunciation. I forgot that I've also obtained various Latin prayers, along with my above resources.
Wow, my alma mater. I've never heard of this method, but I'll definitely look into this. Thanks! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 6 of 32 07 July 2007 at 10:17am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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I realize I forgot to list this site:
Latinum It's a Latin learning podcast that I recently stumbled upon, but I'm not sure if I particularly agree with the particular approach. Then again, I'm quite happy that such a site even exists. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 7 of 32 07 July 2007 at 10:21am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Reltuk
I forgot to ask: What pronunciation does the Latin course use? Also, is the pronunciation accurate with how it should sound (whether it be Ecclesiastical or Classical)? -Jason 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6155 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin | Message 8 of 32 07 July 2007 at 11:17am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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I just found mp3s of the first 17 lessons of Assimil Latin!
You can access them by going to this site! http://www.latinitatis.com/latinitas/menu_gb.htm Or, more specifically, the text is available on gif format and the recordings are available here. I've also answered my own questions: The pronunciation is heavily accented in French and it is in Classical pronuncation. Now if only I knew how to read in French ;) Edited by JasonChoi on 07 July 2007 at 11:22am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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