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Cyrillic versus Latin script

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cordelia0507
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 Message 33 of 66
07 January 2009 at 4:39pm | IP Logged 
Cyrillic alphabet is beautiful, practical and clever. I am a big fan.

But I wonder how this alphabet come about? Before or after Latin? Why do some Cyrillic letters appear like mirror images or "false friends" of Latin letters?

However I hate it when the Russian letters are used "for decoration" such as using "ya" instead of "R" ! For example: Right next to my house is a bar called "Vodka Revolution" which uses this type of dodgy "fake Russian" spelling. It's even got some kind of mock-Communist theme... Too cheesy!

Edited by cordelia0507 on 07 January 2009 at 4:46pm

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 Message 34 of 66
07 January 2009 at 9:07pm | IP Logged 
Both Latin and Cyrillic came from the Greek alphabet, the Cyrillic one came about much later. Wikipedia will tell you more ;)
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 Message 35 of 66
07 January 2009 at 9:28pm | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Cyrillic alphabet is beautiful, practical and clever. I am a big fan.

But I wonder how this alphabet come about? Before or after Latin? Why do some Cyrillic letters appear like mirror images or "false friends" of Latin letters?


When I first got started with Russian I learned about the Cyrillic alphabet's Greek origins. The Russian N "Н" confused me because that's what the Greeks use for one of their E's. The rest were OK.

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However I hate it when the Russian letters are used "for decoration" such as using "ya" instead of "R" ! For example: Right next to my house is a bar called "Vodka Revolution" which uses this type of dodgy "fake Russian" spelling. It's even got some kind of mock-Communist theme... Too cheesy!


Don't forget the equally cheesy "LADIES DЯIИК FЯEE EVEЯУ ИIGHT!"

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 Message 36 of 66
08 January 2009 at 3:41am | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Cyrillic alphabet is beautiful, practical and clever. I am a big fan.

But I wonder how this alphabet come about? Before or after Latin? Why do some Cyrillic letters appear like mirror images or "false friends" of Latin letters? ...


yobar wrote:
When I first got started with Russian I learned about the Cyrillic alphabet's Greek origins. ...


Oh, my. This is one of my favourite flaming topics.

The original Slavic alphabet (with Greek origins) was the Glagolic. It was developed by St. Cyril and Methodius in an effort to differentiate from the Latin script used by the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) empire. At that time the Empire was 'the enemy' exerting significant cultural influence. The development of a new alphabet was an act of defiance.

The Cyrillic alphabet is a heavily modified (and simplified) version of the Glagolic script. Multiple theories exist as to its origin but most researchers agree that it was developed in the literary school of Preslav (the capital of the second Bulgarian kingdom; nowadays a picturesque city with a ruined fortress nearby).

If you deem me biased, refer to the Russian wikipedia:

Russian Wikipedia wrote:
Появление кириллицы, восходящей к греческому уставному (торжественному) письму, в таком случае связывают с деятельностью болгарской школы книжников (после Кирилла и Мефодия). В частности, в житии св. Климента Охридского прямо пишется о создании им славянской письменности уже после Кирилла и Мефодия.


"...The appearance of Cyrillic, which can be traced back to Greek origins, in that case can be attributed to the Bulgarian literary tradition (sequential to [the work of] Cyril and Methodius). In particular, in the memoires of Clement of Ohrid it is directly mentioned that Cyrillic was created only after the work of Cyril and Methodius."

Cheers.



Edited by Sennin on 08 January 2009 at 4:23am

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 Message 37 of 66
08 January 2009 at 5:14am | IP Logged 
yobar wrote:
Don't forget the equally cheesy "LADIES DЯIИК FЯEE EVEЯУ ИIGHT!"
Your username is just as cheesy.
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 Message 38 of 66
08 January 2009 at 10:00am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
yobar wrote:
Don't forget the equally cheesy "LADIES DЯIИК FЯEE EVEЯУ ИIGHT!"
Your username is just as cheesy.


Ah. As in Ёбарь. Now I get it. Hmmm.
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 Message 39 of 66
08 January 2009 at 12:20pm | IP Logged 
Гайз, Ай синк лэт зэ азэр славик лэнгўэджес би риттен ин зэйр префёрт скрипт, энд лэт эвриўан юз ўотэвэ скрипт хи лайкс. ;) Ай стронгли саппорт зэ айдиа оф инглиш ин сайриллик! Зыс ўил би дэмн кул! Бат ўи'лл нид Беларуссиан "ў", Бурятиан "ө" энд э фью аөэр лэттэрс фор пёфект фанэтикс.

Edited by Siberiano on 08 January 2009 at 12:24pm

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 Message 40 of 66
08 January 2009 at 3:37pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
yobar wrote:
Don't forget the equally cheesy "LADIES DЯIИК FЯEE EVEЯУ ИIGHT!"
Your username is just as cheesy.


Mmmm. Люблю сыр.


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