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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 49 of 131 03 July 2011 at 6:37am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Despite your dismissal, I think this is some pretty good advice. Post your language plan, and we might be able to help you. Or, if you prefer to leave it up to lucky guesses, please continue to defend your rant. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Kitchen.Sink Newbie United States Joined 6185 days ago 20 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 50 of 131 03 July 2011 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
If you had bothered to read this thread you would see that not only have some good solutions been discussed, but also my method for learning Korean was talked about (Anki + sample sentences with audio). I know it's fun to join in on all the useless criticism of me, but one thing can be said of the others: they at least bothered to read the thread. Edited by Kitchen.Sink on 03 July 2011 at 6:49am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 51 of 131 03 July 2011 at 6:55am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I read the whole thread. Maybe I couldn't believe that was your entire language plan; can't remember. I'll read it
again. In the mean time, maybe you could consider the possibility that not all the criticism is useless. Having an open mind is a plus. Too bad I can't follow my own advice. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 52 of 131 03 July 2011 at 7:27am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
This is all I could find regarding your language plan. I'm sure this isn't complete. Here are some sample language plans. Some are pretty complete, some aren't. If you could organize and flesh out exactly what you've done, are doing, and plan to do to get to the stage where you are merely using native material to study (I call that stage "heaven"), then we will be much more likely to make constructive suggestions. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Kitchen.Sink Newbie United States Joined 6185 days ago 20 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 53 of 131 03 July 2011 at 7:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I appreciate your patience to go through and re-read the thread. It's clear that your
intentions are good, that you are not here to flaunt or condescend like some of the others, and for that I apologize for being testy with you. The truth is that my language plan extends only as far as what you have listed. I use Anki to make flashcards of full-fledged, native Korean, with audio accompaniment if it is possible. The sources range from websites, textbooks, grammar banks, Korean dictionaries (Naver is great), Kdramas, Kpop, and so on. I couple that process with listening to Korean news radio off and on throughout the day. Sometimes it's for a few hours, sometimes for a few minutes, but I have done it consistently for about two or three years. I will admit that at times it just becomes background noise, but I do spend plenty of time actively focusing on the broadcasts. This method was popularized by Khazumoto at the 'All Japanese All the Time' website. It is a process I have faith in. As mentioned earlier in this thread, in just 4 months of learning Chinese with this method I saw incredible results. I can still understand much more Chinese than I can understand Korean, getting a good grasp on Mandopop and Chinese news casts. I also saw solid results with Japanese. Korean, though, has gotten me nowhere. And if this method doesn't work with Korean, I'm convinced that no method will. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5771 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 54 of 131 03 July 2011 at 10:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Oh well. There is no sense in listening to a register that you don't learn in your other study time, so scrap the news and listen to content that you actually have a chance of understanding, like ripped audio from your dramas. And if you don't do it already, do pronunciation practice.
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| LegendaryLvl1 Newbie Australia Joined 4919 days ago 5 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English* | Message 55 of 131 03 July 2011 at 11:07am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Hmm.. Being Korean, I can sort of understand what the OP is going through. When I was
younger, the hardest aspect of the Korean language was not speaking itself - but the written form, which would lead to complications in my grammar, which would ultimately result in my speaking skills deteriorating. It seemed as though the more I was learning Korean, the worse I was getting. Of course I realised my mistake later on - I was focusing too much on the written form. I corrected this by just immersing myself in Korean speech (Which I am obviously fluent at) - from which my written skills developed (by dabbling in a few articles). I think OP needs to stop going for the artificial never-to-be-used podcasts and radio broadcasts. He/she should focus more on conversational Korean. But then again, one would need a Korean friend to converse with :( Ultimately, I believe that the OP just needs a Korean friend to force some Korean skills out of him (24/7). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5183 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 56 of 131 03 July 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I am so proud.
As I can speak Korean. There is still a way to go, but I am understand more and more from Korean TV. Well, I don't think it's so hard language. Maybe because I like Korea. Anyway, Korean sounds, they are not so hard, I find sound inventory of Swedish etc and other Germanic language much harder, and French? open and closed e? i don't hear a difference! Grammar is quite regular compared to let's say Spanish. And people consider Spanish an easy language. so, maybe it depends on a person. Vocabulary learning is hard, but once you know the Chinese roots... Using polite speech can be quite difficult. When you should talk politely and when not? When formally? 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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