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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 65 of 114 01 January 2012 at 11:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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and finally i have a log too :D
the code is here if you want to add links to teammates' logs: http://justpaste.it/codigo_fuente 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 66 of 114 01 January 2012 at 11:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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oh my, it's january second and we're on the 9th page already XD
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5395 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 67 of 114 02 January 2012 at 3:21am | IP Logged | ||
I think that's because a few of us like to talk alot. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| GRagazzo Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4961 days ago 115 posts - 168 votes Speaks: Italian, English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, French | Message 68 of 114 02 January 2012 at 6:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Sorry for any inactivity in the log but I don't plan to start until school begins,
right now I have been passively studying some Italian. But my main dilemma is my Slavic language. I've been doing some research and found that Polish is very difficult and not very important world wide. So I am thinking about changing. These are my two options Russian -Widely used -all around cool language in my opinion -lots of resources Bulgarian -my dad owns a restaurant and there are a lot of Bulgarian busboys that I hear chatting all the time. -less resources than Russian -vaguely interested in it Croatian -sounds very beautiful -not sure about amount of resources Advice would be appreciated! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5395 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 69 of 114 02 January 2012 at 6:47am | IP Logged | ||
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I would vote for Croatian. I've fallen in love with it since I started studying it a few weeks ago. It's a beautiful language, and they have really cool music! (It's also a lot easier than Russian, from a native English speaker perspective.)
Of course, Russian would be more "useful" on a large scale for most, I suppose. It's really a matter of taste. I tried playing with Polish last year a little bit. It didn't get along with my brain at all. I couldn't remember anything, even for five minutes. I would love to go back to it, though, once I have learned Croatian and Russian, though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kyknos Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5496 days ago 103 posts - 140 votes Speaks: Slovak, Czech*, English Studies: German, Spanish | Message 70 of 114 02 January 2012 at 10:16am | IP Logged | ||
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I also have problems with Polish. Czech is my native and Slovak my secondary native language, Polish is supposed to be the closest relative (with the exception of the two almost dead Sorbian languages), yet I can understand Russian or Croatian much better than Polish. I can compare my ability to understand Polish with my current ability to understand Spanish (based only on English cognates and some long forgotten medical Latin). I passed a sailing license examination in Croatian without any linguistic preparation, I cannot imagine anything similar in Polish. The horrible digraph orthography (Czech got rid off it in the 15th century) may be part of the reason, but the spoken language is not much easier. It is even difficult for me to understand Czech dialects spoken near the Polish border, especially in the east of the country.
If you learn for practical reasons, Russian is the right choice. If you want to learn a beautiful language, I recommend Slovak. It is very musical, in my opinion much nicer than Czech. And you will fully understand two languages for the price of one. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 71 of 114 02 January 2012 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | ||
it all depends on your learning style I suppose. there's certainly not the same variety of resources as for Italian or Spanish, and you might need to plunge into the native materials a bit earlier. Tbh it does seem like you're a bit more motivated for Russian. Besides, you did have your reasons to start Polish - maybe you just need to use different resources? someone gave this link and I saved it for my future studies of Polish: http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/ A good test could be filling out your profile in more detail. List every single reason you have to study Polish, then add other languages to your hit list and do the same for them. Maybe it's just not the right moment for you to start out with Slavic languages. Or maybe the best introduction for you would be something different - one of the languages you mentioned or even Slovio which is a conlang. What exactly did you find difficult about Polish? You could have a look at the language profiles, at wikipedia, free online resources. It's totally ok to give in to wanderlust. In the long run, whichever Slavic language you're trying to learn, this will also improve your understanding of the others, especially at the beginner level. You could study each of them for a week, or study them all simultaneously for some time... Eventually the right language will choose you. Or you'll choose it, whichever way you prefer to put it. I was in a similar situation when I tried to decide which Western or Southern Slavic language to study. The main difference is of course that I'm Russian :-) I finally realized that importance doesn't matter. "To the world you are someone, but to someone you are the world." The same is true about languages, I think. Finland, Croatia, Denmark are quite small countries... but if I love them so much, why should it matter? We don't even know everything about our hometowns, imagine how much there is to discover in places we've been to for a week or even month or a year? But yes, most languages you mentioned would require this sort of love, desire to explore the cultures and meet new people. Unlike with Esperanto, you can't just choose a Slavic language randomly and study it for a month and get fluent. On a purely technical matter, I've stressed already that you don't have to decide on your Slavic language to stay in the team. You can just stay around and read about our adventures - we have learners of Polish, Russian, BCSM, Ukrainian, Belarusian (just me lol). Sure sooner or later you won't resist? :) You do seem to have a big interest in Slavic languages as a whole - perhaps you can find a programme for getting a (reading) knowledge of them all/most of them? there's one for Romance languages at least. If you're interested in linguistics, you can read an overview book about the Slavic languages - or, as I said, just taste them all till you make up your mind. Good luck! Edited by Serpent on 02 January 2012 at 9:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| GRagazzo Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4961 days ago 115 posts - 168 votes Speaks: Italian, English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, French | Message 72 of 114 03 January 2012 at 1:45am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the input everyone. As for what I didn't like about Polish it was the lack of
resources and the fact that I don't like the way it sounds. I have finally limited my options to either Croation or Slovak because they both have a language they are kind of paired with, Serbian for Croation and Czeck for Slovak. I think I will go with which ever one I find easier. I will probably follow Serpent's advice and do some research in those two languages and see which one I prefer. Oh yeah and also Russian is in my head as well. I hope to know which language I will chose shortly. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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