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| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish | Message 89 of 144 24 February 2012 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well the grammar and the vocab are at least very easy(lots of German cognates).
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 90 of 144 28 February 2012 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | ||
I am happy to hear that you enjoy it. What resources do you use? Let me know when you decide to come, so we can meet up. We are not exactly drowning in Norwegian learners, so I will try to give a helping hand to those who do study it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish | Message 91 of 144 28 February 2012 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks! I am using Kauderwelsch Norwegisch wört für wört and Linguaphone Norwegian,
Pimsleur Norwegian, Google.no nyheter, and some children's book from a website of children's books. I am a bit humbled since that post, as the pronunciation is harder than I thought. The vocab and grammar are extremely easy however, and I can already read so much. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish | Message 92 of 144 29 February 2012 at 1:21am | IP Logged | ||
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Started learning a bit of ASL with my friend at school today. Very interesting to have a
language with no spoken aspect. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 93 of 144 29 February 2012 at 1:46am | IP Logged | ||
When the time comes, and if you feel like taking a look at a Norwegian-only course, have a look at På Vei and later Stein på Stein. They're both courses aimed at immigrants to Norway and are really pretty complete courses with good audio. You'll increase your vocabulary in no time with them. I don't have links handy at the moment, but you can find them using Google and a good portion of both courses are freely downloadable. I highly recommend them! R. == 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish | Message 94 of 144 29 February 2012 at 2:20am | IP Logged | ||
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Ah thank you so much! Just found both of them and will check them out.
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| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4798 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 95 of 144 29 February 2012 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | ||
Hi Ellsworth! You're doing great progress, and that's an admirable and interesting set of languages you got there! Don't lose heart with Japanese. The biggest hurdle in the language is that the sentence order is really different to that of a native English speaker. But the system has its own logic, believe me. Once you figure it out, it'll be really easy, and all you need after that is to expose yourself repeatedly to the patterns until you get used to it. You mentioned you like grammar. Look up "Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar" on Amazon. There are also two other books in the series, the Intermediate, and Advanced. I'm a big fan. While my approach is to figure out things on my own first and then refer to grammar references, the book is still really enjoyable to go through. Very easy explanations, and tons of example sentences to highlight the different points. It also introduces all forms of speech, from colloquial to polite. You'll really love it. I haven't gone through it yet, just attempted to read a few pages then set it down to resume later, but I loved what I saw. Give it a shot. A point though. If you feel lost with the sentences, you might try starting from the simplest and increasing incrementally with the difficulty level. I was lost when I was approaching Japanese too, but I decided to start reading sample sentences, with word- for-word translations, and did that for some time, gradually increasing the difficulty level, until I got a very good idea about how the grammar works. I used Assimil Japanese for that, but you can find this kind of gradual building in any beginner text- book, I guess. My school uses Genki, and I did look briefly through it. It looks really good, but I'm not a textbook person, so didn't use it. The idea here is to look at the sentences and their word-for-word translations, then read up the grammatical explanations for the points presented, and build up from there. You can use the book and ignore all the exercises, just focus on the sentences in the dialogues. Or you can use the exercise to reinforce what you learned, it all depends on you. It's helpful to do a few exercises to remind yourself of the structures you studied, I guess. I personally focused on the sentences until I got the meaning down, and then now I try to read and listen to as much Japanese as possible. I still get stumped, since I'm still in the early stages, but it's definitely getting easier. And you can try to study Kanji before all of this if you haven't done so already. It will immensely help you find your way through the texts easily. I'm a big fan of Heisig. The book is "Remembering the Kanji." I'm focusing on both Japanese and Russian in this TAC. So even though my Japanese skills are still rudimentary, you can fire questions at me anytime if you need to. Good luck in the 6 WC! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish | Message 96 of 144 29 February 2012 at 10:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the comment. I actually own remembering the Kanji, and I have already
completed the first book. I will check out also that dictionary of Japanese grammar though the two books I own are both pretty good (Fundementals of Japanese Grammar and Oxford Dictionary of Japanese Grammar and Verbs). I also have Genki 1 and 2, and am planning on using it(though I haven't yet). I also am practicing with my aunt who is a native speaker. But despite all that, there may still be questions I have for you so thank you for the offer (also maybe Arabic if you don't mind)! I find your progress in the 6WC quite inspirational by the way. Amazing amount of work done. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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