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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 89 of 118 06 August 2014 at 1:04am | IP Logged | ||
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I just thought I'd make a start on my ~400 reviews @ RTK.
One of the first to come up was "mistake". So I drew my attempt and it looked nothing like the solution supplied. I was sure I was right so I went off to tangorin, asked it to look up あやまって and clicked on the first kanji. The kanji itself matched that shown by RTK, but that's because it's just the system font. The stroke order diagram showed the kanji as I had drawn it. (I'm running Linux Mint Qiana but I've just checked Windows 7 and it matches exactly what I see). I checked Kanji In Context (my edition is (c) 2013) and #949 is the kanji in question, and in the book is drawn the way I remember it. The "other" way isn't any harder (the right hand part is probably easier, "mouth" over "heaven"), just different. In fact, if you look at ごらく in tangorin.com and click on the first kanji, the right hand part matches the way I remember writing the right hand part of the kanji for "mistake". I had thought that perhaps the system fonts for Linux Mint and Windows 7 had caught up with the latest government kanji revision, but KIC was published in 2013 and is using the kanji as I remember it. A bit more searching and I find this PDF, so at least my system fonts are not involved. The unicode for the character in question is 0x8AAF. In the row for that value, the kanji that I see in my browser is the first one listed under Chinese, the one I remember (and which KIC uses) is listed under Japanese. This PDF is dated (c) 2014, so I expect that it is current. So I'm not sure what is going on here. KIC's usage matches my memory. That would suggest that both Linux Mint and Windows 7 are using a Chinese character. Does anyone have a reasonable explanation for all of this? (I don't think this is the only recent font change ... it's just the first one that I've pinned down as not being due to my faulty wetware ...). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5979 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 90 of 118 06 August 2014 at 9:17am | IP Logged | ||
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As you see already, it's because Chinese and Japanese (and Korean etc) share unicode
characters. Look up "han unification" for more info. When it comes to running Anki on Linux there should be an easy fix. Just make sure the font you use to display the kanji in your deck is a Japanese font (e.g. a mincho font). The only way I can get characters to display correctly (without rooting it) on my Android phone is to change the whole thing to Japanese language, for the same reason. On my PC, I had to change Chrome to Japanese mode to get correct display too, but now I tend to use Firefox which handles Japanese a lot better... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 91 of 118 06 August 2014 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah. It's browser dependent. That's surprising. Some quick testing on W7 and LM17 confirms
that this does indeed seem to be the case. Actually, at least on Linux Mint 17, everything is wrong except Firefox (which somehow sorts it all out properly). (Whereas on W7 everything is right except for Chrome). A bit of googling suggests that LM16 got it right but LM17 is just (seemingly) broken. I guess that as long as I use Firefox for RTK I should be OK. I'll have to look into Anki too I suppose. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 92 of 118 13 August 2014 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | ||
A little play on my work W7 box today seems to confirm that the only thing to get this wrong is Chrome. Everything else I tried (not just browsers, but any other programs) just "did the right thing". I even installed a font chooser under the advanced settings for font customisation, but it still picked the Chinese fonts. I even went so far as to hunt out a few likely other settings (Han and Simplified Han) and it still stubbornly insisted on using a Chinese font. I did switch the Chrome language to Japanese and that did fix it, but that's just too much hassle when the rest of the PC is using English (and I'm not yet ready to switch everything over to Japanese just yet!) So it looks like this is not fixable in the current version of Chrome. Maybe I'll work up the energy to file a bug report. Actually, maybe I won't bother! Edited by dampingwire on 13 August 2014 at 4:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 93 of 118 16 August 2014 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've now finished activating all the N2 vocab in my Vocabulary deck: I just need to get
the (maybe 4000) reviews under control. That deck still has ~1800 words that I've not activated yet (mostly from NHK News, text books etc.). I'm going to take my time doing this as I'm in no rush. I've decided that 彩雲国物語 is just too tough for me at the moment. It's full of types of goblins and wizard's names and so on. The first page took me an hour to read (intensively) and even when I eased up a little I was taking 30 mins per page and still having trouble following the story. So I'm going to switch to an easier book. I don't know which one yet: I'm just going to try each of them in turn until I find one I can manage without that much difficulty. I'm into the final week of 日本語総まとめ N2 文法. I've taken a sneak peek ahead and only 3 or 4 of the ~24 grammar points are new to me. So I'll probably be finished early with this book. Or at least my first pass will finish early ... I'll certainly be coming back to this one. Next up will be 新完全マスター N2 文法: I sat idly leafing through this one earlier today for a quarter of an hour and, just like the N3 version, it seems much more thorough than 総まとめ. I suppose the clue's in the name (summary vs perfection). This one will give me plenty of Japanese reading practice too as everything is in Japanese. I may dip back into All About Particles at various points for some light relief! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 94 of 118 25 August 2014 at 12:04am | IP Logged | ||
I picked ほのかなひかり and so far that's proving to be much more suitable. It's still tough going and I have to work at it but I can read it semi-extensively and still get something out of it. I've managed to get through ~50 pages of it in the last four days, so this is the one I'll stick with for now. I did find that it used furigana in what looked like odd places, but when I looked the words up I found that the kanji representation chosen wasn't the common one, or in other cases kanji was used where usually kana would be used. Despite that quirk I think I'll be able to get to the end of this one (~280 pages in all). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4662 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 95 of 118 28 August 2014 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well the JLPT results are available on the website.
My predictions are as accurate as ever and I've passed with A for Vocabulary and B for Grammar. The marks were 39/60 (Language), 33/60 (Reading) and 28/60 (Listening) and a total of 100/180. That would be scraping a C in any other exam I've taken in my life but Japanese is just different, isn't it. Anyway, I'm happy to have passed. So now I need to focus on passing N2. Edited by dampingwire on 28 August 2014 at 12:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4769 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 96 of 118 28 August 2014 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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合格おめでとうございます‼︎ Good luck with the N2!
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