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| Farley Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 7095 days ago 681 posts - 739 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, GermanB1, French Studies: Spanish | Message 169 of 191 16 July 2007 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | ||
David, No Bill Handley (fanatic) recommends using at least 3 different "textbooks" not "audio courses"; one will explain something better than the other. In fact, he recommends in his book to cover each grammar book from cover to cover a couple of times each. He says you don't have to spend tons of money on audio courses. In his book recommends several courses, Assimil is just his favorite. His book also includes a section on grammar, in some ways it was a bit more old-fashioned than Farber. The big difference between Handley and Farber is that Handley recommends "Quickly poorly vs. slowly surely" approach to everything. The emphasis on grammar is a point that always gets overlooked in these debates on the effectiveness of Assimil. Using an Assimil course was never excuse to dispense with the textbook. John 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7149 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 171 of 191 16 July 2007 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | ||
No, my book is not available at present from amazon.com. The publishers, John Wiley and Son Australia, have now acquired world rights for the book and they don't sell on amazon as a rule. They haven't decided what they will do in the case of my book but I am inclined to think they won't be offering the book to amazon. The easiest way at present is to buy the book directly from my website. I have sold copies of the book to countries around the world, many, I suspect, to members of this forum. I have the feeling that Wiley Australia are more interested in selling the translation rights than the book itself worldwide. They have just sold the translation rights for my new mathematics book to a Spanish publisher so Spanish is the fourth language for my maths books. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6627 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 172 of 191 17 July 2007 at 1:12am | IP Logged | ||
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What is the website for your book? It sounds very interesting.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6442 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 173 of 191 17 July 2007 at 1:30am | IP Logged | ||
http://www.speedmathematics.com/html/few.htm. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7106 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 174 of 191 20 July 2007 at 3:07am | IP Logged | ||
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When I first stumbled across this thread after a lengthy (for me) absence from having the time to visit the forum, I thought "Oh no, not again! Yet another FSI v. Assimil debate!".
Nevertheless, having waded through the 22 pages I found that I quite enjoyed the discussion and many of the points made. However, I have to say that yet again we appear to have reached the fundamental conclusion that your learning style will seriously affect the perceived effectiveness of using an Assimil course. I'll reiterate some points I've made (several times) before. I've used both FSI (Platiquemos) and Assmil Spanish courses (With Ease and Using Spanish). I found both effective but I find Assimil much less time-consuming. Somewhere on the site are some links to online tests designed to ascertain learning styles. If you want to know whether Assimil or FSI is going to work for you (or why it doesn't work at all) first determine your learning style. If anything Seth has said rings true, you're probably going to prefer FSI. I don't think anyone should necessarily be criticised for not completing a course all the way before dismissing it. I've "binned" plenty of learning material over the years because I've found it useless for me. For example, I'm unlikely to ever bother with another Pimsleur course since I find the pace too slow. Personally, my learning style is somewhat in the middle which is why I always fail to understand the strong negative reactions to both courses. My preference is to use Assimil as a basis but I am extremely grateful to Platiquemos for the drills on certain points that I was always geting wrong. I found myself nodding in agreement over David's points on Assimil German with Ease since I have found I am often looking up certain elements within a sentence to understand their literal meaning and usage better, However, to me that's just an example of Ardaschir's adding "salt to taste". Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| lloydkirk Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6416 days ago 429 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Russian | Message 176 of 191 21 July 2007 at 6:53pm | IP Logged | ||
That's somewhat of a contradiction. The rest of your statement is a rant. Many people have used FSI or Assimil with great success, perhaps they are not for you. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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