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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 33 of 114 11 December 2011 at 3:57pm | IP Logged |
Amerykanka wrote:
Serpent wrote:
Apart from that epic textbook, I also tried some podcasts and a translation of several chapters of LOTR:) And I always tried to add the related words from Esperanto and/or Portuguese to my Latin flash cards, this also helped. You could get a Spanish-Latin dictionary I guess... <3 |
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That's neat that you translated several chapters of LOTR. That is my favorite ever book, but unfortunately I don't own a Latin copy!
I agree that Spanish words help me to remember their Latin counterparts (or ancestors). That is one bonus of learning related languages! :) |
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I didn't translate them, I read them! XD
it's here: http://www.eldalie.ch/dominusanulorum/
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5399 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 34 of 114 11 December 2011 at 4:01pm | IP Logged |
I just realized that I haven't introduced myself here. I've already started my 2012 TAC Log. I'm really looking forward to teaming up with you guys, and I'm getting really excited for the new year's challenges.
From my log:
Kerrie wrote:
My primary languages for 2012 will be Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese and Croatian/Bosnian. If that's not enough, I might... Oh, wait.
That's more than enough! But there are others that are really calling me: Greek, Turkish, Russian, Hungarian, German, Japanese. I just found out that one of my friends at work is learning Turkish, so there is an extra incentive to pick that up, too.
Spanish My Spanish is probably about a B2 (passive) and B1 (active). I would like to get this up to an active C1. I will be working through Teach Yourself Improve your Spanish and Living Language Ultimate Spanish Advanced, then reading through the Harry Potter series. (You will see a lot of Harry Potter here. I am a little bit of a fan!) I will probably work through one or two of the Practice Makes Perfect grammar books, too.
French My French is probably an B1 (reading) and A2 (active). My goal for 2012 is to get to (active) B2 and (passive) C1. I will be using Assimil, Living Language Ultimate French, and Teach Yourself Improve your French. Some grammar (Practice Makes Perfect) and some more Harry Potter. Maybe Le Petit Prince.
Italian My Italian is a high A1 (maybe passive A2). I'd like to bring it to a solid B2, which should not be too hard if I am consistent with my studies. I'll be using mostly the same materials as I am for French. Assimil, Living Language Ultimate Italian, and Teach Yourself Improve your Italian. Some grammar (Practice Makes Perfect) and some more Harry Potter. Maybe Il Piccolo Principe.
Portuguese My Portuguese is nearly non-existent right now. My goal for 2012 is to change that. Just a little! I find that I can read a fair amount of Portuguese, and it really intrigues me. So I'm going to try it. I have the Assimil Portuguese, Living Language Ultimate Portuguese, and Michel Thomas audio courses. I'm hoping those will be enough to give me a solid start. I'm hoping to find a decent grammar book to work through, and then read the first book or two from Harry Potter. Maybe The Little Prince, if I can find a copy.
Bosnian/Croatian My BCS is nearly non-existent, too. I work with about a dozen Bosnians, so I hear it all day long. There's not many resources out there for Bosnian, per se, though. I'm planning to use Spoken World Croatian and the Assimil Serbo-Croat books. I'd like to get my BCS up to an A2 by the end of the year. I want to aim higher, but it's my first Slavic language, so I'll settle for that. =)
German I am not planning to focus on German, but I would like to learn it, so I will probably do something rather slow-paced and spread over the course of the year, just to get a basic foundation. I've studied German before, but never for very long. I will work through the Michel Thomas courses and then work on Living Language's Ultimate German. Maybe one lesson every week or two. I have a number of other sources, and may decide later in the year to pursue that more seriously.
So, to recap my goals:
Spanish -----> B1 to C1
French ------> A2 to B2/C1
Italian -------> high A1 to B2
Portuguese --> 0 to B1
BCS ---------> 0 to A2
German ------> A1 to B1
Turksh ------> 0 to ???
I really enjoy listening to music in my target languages, and I'm planning to pick out one or two songs (in each language) each week to learn. I can listen to my mp3 player at work. It's too noisy to listen to lessons (besides, most of my attention has to be focused on my work!), but listening to music in my target languages won't be a problem. |
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 35 of 114 11 December 2011 at 5:56pm | IP Logged |
Yay! Great to read about your goals<3
I'm also going to read HP in various languages. And I have a PDF of O pequeno principe :) If I read the little prince it'll be in Romanian though. Oh and in both cases it'll be Listening-Reading rather than just reading.
I'm a bit jealous, I can't really enjoy doing the traditional courses in languages where my comprehension >>>>>> my active skills :/ I'm not against grammar, but AJATT-style natural learning is so much more fun:S
I love music too! Especially Luciano Ligabue in Italian<333
also, I discovered this site yesterday http://gloss.dliflc.edu/Default.aspx (while looking through posts of people who list "I found great free materials online" as a reason to study this or that language:)) pity there's nothing in Italian or Romanian, but great otherwise!
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5399 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 36 of 114 11 December 2011 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
The AJATT-style is a little like Assimil, isn't it? Learning/memorizing sentences as opposed to studying grammar..?
I much prefer Assimil, but I like to have a reference to look up grammar points as well. I plan to fly through the Living Language courses to (for the Romance languages, anyways) and focus more on Assimil. After I've got a grasp on the language, I prefer to listen/read audiobooks more than "study" from a course book.
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| pineappleboom Groupie United States languageloft-ashley. Joined 5257 days ago 66 posts - 76 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, French, Russian
| Message 37 of 114 11 December 2011 at 6:15pm | IP Logged |
Hi!
I'm setting some pretty ambitious goals this year. I am a newbie when it comes to both French and Russian, but I want to reach a B1 or B2 level in each of them this yer
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 38 of 114 11 December 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged |
Well yes, AJATT just suggests using native materials from day 1. At least for me online grammar references are enough. After studying Latin and reading a book on Romance philology, most structures make sense to me, I just can't produce them myself and that's frustrating.
Also, Assimil has you translating sentences and I'm with AJATT here again. I translate only when someone asks me to. That said, I've shadowed Assimil Finnish a lot and I enjoyed it. I shadowed the Portuguese one and it was okay/fun but I don't know why I didn't do it much.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 39 of 114 11 December 2011 at 6:35pm | IP Logged |
pineappleboom wrote:
Hi!
I'm setting some pretty ambitious goals this year. I am a newbie when it comes to both French and Russian, but I want to reach a B1 or B2 level in each of them this yer
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welcome!!!
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5399 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 40 of 114 11 December 2011 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
Does anyone know if there are writing practice sheets floating around online for the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet? If I'm going to learn BCS, I'd like to learn to read and write the Cyrillic, too. I have no problem reading it, but I really don't know how to write it unless it's in block letters.
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